kysely VS pg-promise

Did you check https://github.com/koskimas/kysely ? It was great when I used it. It has great TS support.

That’s where Kysely comes to the rescue: Kysely is a type-safe and devX-friendly typescript SQL query builder. It was designed to work with PostgreSQL and MySQL, but it exposes a few classes that can let us write queries without being connected to an actual relational database.

prisma (mentioned in the article), zapatos, pgtyped and kysely are the most popular currently I think.

switch between a limited interface and a query builder (MikroORM, TypeORM). This feels like using two different libraries, switching between two different sets of limitations. Kysely is a nice query builder with good TS support, but MikroORM is using Knex instead so you're losing TS, and TypeORM has a custom query builder, less user-friendly than Knex.

I'd love to see Kysely as an option.

Kysely[1] and zapatos[2] are excellent solutions for type-safe typescript query builders. It’s hard to go back to the days of spending 20-30% of your time in the object mapping layer.

[1] https://github.com/koskimas/kysely

Querying the database (PostgreSQL) should not be ground breaking. Personally I like to have full type-safety so we can easily catch bugs during the development time without introducing any tests that are just testing the data type from our datastore to match the data type our API expects. I like to go database schema first, which means that we generate types from the database schema and work with those. Any change to the schema of the database is made with SQL migrations and after that, the typescript types are regenerated. Another approach is to use a code-first tool like TypeORM or Prisma. However in my experience such tools often produce not efficient SQL queries and are less easy to extend. In my projects I use library kysely (https://github.com/koskimas/kysely) with kysely-codegen (https://github.com/RobinBlomberg/kysely-codegen) to have a full type-safe SQL builder.

Personally with more time I would also use JavaScript so I can improve it. Last time I wrote something with Express and a database connection is a long time ago and not for work, only for my personal testing. But for JavaScript database connection to PostgreSQL I recommend pg-promise. That works like a charm.

I've always loved this project / product:

https://github.com/outline/outline

I think the guy who built it posts here. There's also pg-promise, a "Postgres interface for Node.js":

https://github.com/vitaly-t/pg-promise

Raw pgPromise with string templating.

i do have a couple of them like websocket server using ws, bullmq for sending emails and postgres listen/notify to push data to websocket clients. Would you happen to have any ideas on how to go about these? I did some research

Yes. You can also take at the pg-promise library. https://github.com/vitaly-t/pg-promise

Is there any difference to the named parameters already supported? https://github.com/vitaly-t/pg-promise#named-parameters

During my years as a dev i have really started to dislike ORMs. They always fail in the end. SQL is universal, and transfers between languages and tech fields. This is why im pro-sql, and always try to avoid unnecessary abstractions.

I have actually went back to writing pure SQL in files, and using those as params for whatever db engine i use, this makes it even possible to reuse the code in other projects (even its unlikely that you can use the exact same query, but just as a "it would work" in theory).

For node based projects i have used and would probably still choose pg-promise (https://github.com/vitaly-t/pg-promise).

Since I'm decent at writing SQL queries and I don't want to learn additional syntax to work with ORMs/query builders, I stay as close as possible to the database driver. pg-promise is an excellent library built on top of the Node.js driver for PostgreSQL. It's built with promises in mind, it's well-tested and typed.

dont believe me? look at how many open issues they have https://github.com/vitaly-t/pg-promise/issues

I just used pg-promise - it handles the connections for you, up to you to write the SQL.