kmm-production-sample VS ktor

Business logic is not only about backend. Apps usually have a lot of client-side logic that can be written once in KMM and used on both platforms. See [1] for a high level architecture diagram.

I'm an iOS dev and I've been using KMM on a couple of projects for more than a year now. It's really a powerfull technology which allows teams to move faster, but there are downsides, for example lack of native Swift interop, though there are opensource tools trying to solve this [2].

[1]: https://github.com/Kotlin/kmm-production-sample/tree/master#...

I'm an Android dev for 10+ years and I've decided to give a go with Kotlin Mobile Multiplatform to try iOS development as well. For that purpose I would need a Mac obviously, and Windows 11's flaws don't help either so I made my mind and I would like to pick a Mac as my next developer machine for the next 4-5 years.

I don't use iOS, but https://kotlinlang.org/lp/mobile/ claims that using Kotlin works on iOS too. You still will need a Mac though, but that's pretty much a given if you want to develop iOS apps.

Kotlin Multiplatform with Realm as a middle layer.

Kotlin Multiplatform. You write the UI fully native for each platform, but have all the business logic as shared code.

maybe people confused it with kotlin multiplatform mobile which indeed support ios but only the business logic. you have to write the ui in swiftui.

I think the most compeling use for Kotlin Native is mobile. I wonder if it's possible to write a Kotlin multi-platform library that can then be used from the JVM, JS, iOS and Android? What would such library look like from the other languages? This is something I am trying to find out right now, and Kotlin Multiplatform seems to be the only sane choice to do this (but I am not sure yet that it's actually good/possible right now). Any more information about this would be appreciated.

Kotlin isn't just JVM and Kotlin projects like this one for writing iOS+Android apps look quite promising: https://kotlinlang.org/lp/mobile/

In paralel Jetbrains has created a lot of KMP frameworks that are awesome. One of them is Ktor that helps "create asynchronous client and server applications."

Ktor, a powerful web framework built with Kotlin, offers a lightweight and flexible solution for building web applications. In this article, we will guide you through the process of creating a Ktor project manually using Gradle and SDKMAN!. By following the steps below, you'll have a basic Ktor project up and running in no time.

take a look at http4k and ktor for Kotlin specific frameworks Spring has first class support for Kotlin e.g. the following will give you reactive HTTP endpoints when using spring-webflux (this is what is use at work):

Ktor (Microservices framework by JetBrains)

For Android you should use a more mobile friendly framework like Retrofit or if you use Kotlin you can use the multi-platform Ktor library with it's client module

And last but not least, Ktor Client as our HTTP client. https://ktor.io/ It's a pretty amazing http client library and integrates well with Kotlinx serialization and Coroutines.

Kotlin is going to be great with almost every single JVM server. Spring works well with Kotlin, and is directly supported, but spring is also massive, very bloated. I recommend looking at https://github.com/ktorio/ktor which continues to serve all of my needs very well, integrates fantastically with Kotlin coroutines, and has very fast startup time and very good performance.

For the sake of the test, we use Ktor - the easiest way to do so is to use initializer.

I know you are looking for Spring Boot and/or Quarkus, but have you tried ktor. Just curios if you had a particular reason for choosing the other 2. Disclaimer: I haven't used ktor.