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449 | 1,518 | |
1.1% | 0.0% | |
8.0 | 8.3 | |
1 day ago | 2 months ago | |
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MIT License | MIT License |
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kit
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Ask HN: What is your go-to stack for the web?
Clojure using for the server side https://github.com/kit-clj/kit
htmx for frontend, using the built-in kit htmx module.
- Kit – Clojure Web Development
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Why Is Jepsen Written in Clojure?
I am not sure what a web framework is, to be honest. The choices for many parts of a web application are really domain-specific and I'm not sure a single "framework" would work for everyone.
As far as web-related components go, my app uses Rum (as an interface to React), ring, http-kit, pushy (for history manipulation), sente (for websockets), buddy (for authentication tools).
If you are looking for a batteries-included "I want to have some sort of webapp right away" thing, I think https://kit-clj.github.io would fit the bill, but the general feeling in the Clojure community is that unlike Python with Django or Ruby with Rails, the choice of app components is not predetermined by the language.
- A History of Clojure (2020) [pdf]
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Most commonly used libraries/frameworks in Clojure
Luminus has, in theory, been superseded by Kit: https://kit-clj.github.io/ but even so it is still "an opinionated bundle of libraries" rather than a framework.
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Is there an open source project focused on ClojureScript, React, Reagent?
I learned by using https://luminusweb.com/docs/clojurescript.html to get me started. It gives you a plethora of sane starting points, and you can just work on switching it to your own business logic. Troubleshooting and adding functionality will usually lead you to understand how things work. The authors of luminus have moved on to build kit: https://kit-clj.github.io/ which is probably another good starting point.
- Help finding a webdev framework that works out of the box
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Clojure Turns 15 panel discussion video
The cljs stack I hear about a lot (and use) is ShadowCLJS with reagent (https://reagent-project.github.io/) and re-frame (https://day8.github.io/re-frame/). ShadowCLJS is more of a build tool, but is really well documented and easy to use. Reagent is basically react but a simpler API, and re-frame is a layer on top of that provides data subscriptions and event-handlers to manage app state. It's overkill for some apps but I find it's actually super easy to work with and not as much complexity as I thought.
For backend there is luminus (https://luminusweb.com/) or Kit (https://kit-clj.github.io/). They are basically project templates that wire together a ton of popular solutions for various things - database access, migrations, security, html templating, etc. Also includes frontend frameworks like re-frame if you want.
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your thoughts on the kit framework?
The component itself is just a thin wrapper for conman, you can see it here.
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Ask HN: Share Your Personal Site
Here’s me: https://luciano.laratel.li/
I was happy I could get the domain! Pretty simple hand-rolled server-rendered site using the kit-clj[0] and neat-css[1]. Main backbone of the site is here[2]. I used to use a CLJS SPA but it was overkill and not as nice to use (load times particularly.)
[0]: https://kit-clj.github.io/
fulcro
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Riff: A “mycelium-clj” for the Clojure ecosystem?
I definitely believe Clojure needs a rails. Not only will it help beginners get started, if it can help people get started faster and build fast like Django and rails do, I think it'll help more with adoption.
Biff and fulcro seems like they have a shot at this
Biff- https://github.com/jacobobryant/biff
Fulcro - https://github.com/fulcrologic/fulcro
- A History of Clojure (2020) [pdf]
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Most commonly used libraries/frameworks in Clojure
A library that is a bit leaning towards a framework is Fulcro, a fullstack library to build SPAs http://fulcro.fulcrologic.com/
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[ANN] London Clojurians Talk: Why you need Fulcro, the web framework to build apps better, faster (by Jakub Holý)
Fulcro (https://github.com/fulcrologic/fulcro) is my web framework of choice whenever I need to create any non-trivial web application thanks to its productivity. Its overarching design goal is sustainable development speed as time goes and code grows and it really shows up. It is developer friendly, with minimal boilerplate, and features you need for any serious application. And it is surprisingly flexible. Fulcro is based on a few simple ideas that combine powerfully to produce a multitude of capabilities, including its Rapid Application Development "add-on". Some people find Fulcro complicated and scary - but it doesn't need to be. Stop choosing "simpler" web frameworks - and ending up implementing half of Fulcro with much more effort and verbosity and much less value. I will present the minimalist way of learning Fulcro with its three corner stones and explain Fulcro's building blocks. After this talk, you will understand the design and value of Fulcro, be motivated to learn it, and equipped to do so quickly.
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Electric Clojure second batch of tutorials - multiplayer chat, backpressure, component lifecycle, todolist
I am curious how this compares to Fulcro both from a conceptual and a usage perspective. Which advantages does this offer over Fulcro?
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Libraries that join front and back end?
Fulcro has a complete "story" for data-driven UIs and backends. https://github.com/fulcrologic/fulcro
- What are some great Clojure libraries, as of 2021?
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Looking for an example of server-side rendering and client-side rendering with Clojure(script)
We do that via Fulcro: render the first frame in CLJ on JVM, then continue with CLJS in browser. The code is a bit dirty and probably won’t tell you much (because I can’t share the whole app), but you can definitely do that.
What are some alternatives?
biff - A Clojure web framework for solo developers.
electric - Local-first sync layer for web and mobile apps. Build reactive, realtime, local-first apps directly on Postgres.
duct - Server-side application framework for Clojure
electric - a reactive Clojure dialect for web development that uses a compiler to infer the frontend/backend boundary
re-frame-template - A Leiningen template for creating a re-frame application (client only) with a shadow-cljs build.
malli - High-performance data-driven data specification library for Clojure/Script.
react-query - 🤖 Powerful asynchronous state management, server-state utilities and data fetching for TS/JS, React, Solid, Svelte and Vue. [Moved to: https://github.com/TanStack/query]
reagent - A minimalistic ClojureScript interface to React.js
clojure-inertia-pingcrm-demo - PingCRM on Clojure - A Clojure/Script fullstack demo application to illustrate how Inertia.js works.
specter - Clojure(Script)'s missing piece
usermanager-reitit-integrant-example - A little demo web app in Clojure, using Integrant, Ring, Reitit, Selmer (and a database)
jadak - Web-server for ClojureScript/NodeJS based on Yada