ihp VS Hobo

In case this got you interested in Haskell, and you want a good way to start your Haskell journey (and have something to apply the optimization handbook to), check out IHP. It's the Rails/Laravel of the Haskell world. You can start here https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/Guide/index.html or check it out on GitHub here https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp

At IHP we've been using Algora for a while now and it works really great. Here's e.g. one PR that was merged last week with a bounty attached https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/issues/1621 Everything was set up in less than 15 minutes and ioannis and zafer have been super helpful with any questions we had.

In general I think this is a good direction and an interesting take on the open question around sustainable open source. Congrats on the launch and keep up the great work! :)

You could contribute to IHP! We have some great docs to get started here https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md And we have some low hanging fruits in GitHub issues for you to get started with, e.g. https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/issues/1601 (also there's always lots of activity in the IHP Slack, in case you have any questions/need help)

Really happy we've finally go to the 1.0 status :) If you like to take a look at the code, check our GitHub at https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp

kinda early for running roc in production perhaps, but you can try out haskell and its frameworks like ihp or some other web / mobile / multiplatform framework.

In recent years the Haskell ecosystem has drastically improved.

With Haskell Language Server (HLS) there's now great autocompletion and inline error reporting for e.g. VSCode and other editors.

We've recently got dot-notation, so you can type `myRecord.myField` instead of `myField myRecord`, which makes Haskell code feel more familiar when switching from other languages.

With IHP we now even have a Haskell version of Rails/Laravel. Check it out here: https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/ (I'm founder of IHP)

Yes, it's possible to build a traditional web company with Haskell. We've made IHP exactly for that :) It's like Rails/Django but for Haskell. https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/ We specifically try to be batteries-includes (like rails), so you don't have to think too much about what libraries to use, the core of IHP can get you very far without needing to manually decide between libraries.

IHP even won a G2 badge, which is kind of funny and ironic for a Haskell project :D https://www.g2.com/products/ihp/reviews

Thanks to reintroduction of deep subsumption we could finally update IHP to the GHC 9 series. So really happy about the recent GHC releases :)

If you're curious about Haskell, IHP is a good starting point (https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/ https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp). IHP is Haskell's version of Laravel/Rails/Django. It's really a superpower to have Haskell's type system combined with the rapid development approach of Rails :) (Disclaimer: I'm founder of the company that makes IHP)

I'm not looking for the overthrow of CRUD-through-MVC. Rather, Hobo and Hoodie seemed like advances---Hobo was sort of Rails for Rails, and Hoodie was an offline-first framework for something like what we now call Progressive Web Apps---when I tried them early in their life-cycle, but both seem to have withered away. And nobody else (that I can find) seems interested in improving graphical design (as in, "just use Material Design, or Carbon, or whatever"), cleaner parent/child relationships, automatically updating views and controllers to match changes to the models, and probably features that I don't know that I need.