hyperview
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9.0 | 7.6 | |
4 days ago | 3 months ago | |
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MIT License | Mozilla Public License 2.0 |
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hyperview
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- Show HN: Htmx Playground
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Is Htmx Just Another JavaScript Framework?
Is english your first language? I feel like many of your objections, insofar as I can make sense of them, fall into language & semantic debates.
The term HDA, which I coined and, therefore, feel like I have some ability to define, was created to contrast with the familiar SPA/Single Page Application acronym, which is a term used in web development. This is why I focus on the web with that article.
As I have repeated incessantly with you, I included HXML, a mobile hypermedia from the https://hyperview.org project, in my book on hypermedia systems, and I hope this indicates to a fair minded 3rd person (I have given up on you acknowledging my plain language here) that I do not believe that HTML is the only hypermedia in the world.
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Ask HN: Is React Native still popular?
I've really enjoyed using Hyperview (https://hyperview.org/) recently, which uses React Native as a base. I used to think PWA/Ionic/Capacitor apps were better, but have really fallen in love with the simplicity of Hyperview and tools like HTMX.
- Strada Released
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Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator
there already is!
https://hyperview.org/
Adam Stepinski, the creator of Hypreview, built it after his experience with intercooler.js, the predecessor to htmx. It is a very interesting piece of technology and, through the magic of HATEOAS, allows you to update your mobile app instantly for all your users, without dealing with the mobile store!
There is an entire section on Hyperview, written by Adam, in part three of our book:
https://hypermedia.systems/book/contents/
- htmx/Go experiences?
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Any books that cover the current state of webdev?
it's about hypermedia, https://htmx.org/, and https://hyperview.org/ , which have a focus on removing complexity
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Chris James -HTMX is the Future
[1] There is Hyperview but it's super new.
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Htmx Is the Future
i am the creator of htmx, this is a great article that touches on a lot of the advantages of the hypermedia approach (two big ones: simplicity & it eliminates the two-codebase problem, which puts pressure on teams to adopt js on the backend even if it isn't the best server side option)
hypermedia isn't ideal for everything[1], but it is an interesting & useful technology and libraries like htmx make it much more relevant for modern development
we have a free book on practical hypermedia (a review of concepts, old web 1.0 style apps, modernized htmx-based apps, and mobile hypermedia based on hyperview[2]) available here:
https://hypermedia.systems
[1] - https://htmx.org/essays/when-to-use-hypermedia/
[2] - https://hyperview.org/
standards-positions
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Firefox Webserial Addon
You can read through the conversations to understand more of the context
https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/100#is...
https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/95#iss...
https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/336
The main struggle is around giving informed consent that explains the risks. Understandably, browsers don't want to ship a "Set my printer on fire" button.
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iOS404
You can check why Mozilla and Apple have opted to not support this.
https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/154
https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/28
Neither Mozilla or Webkit are satisfied that the proposal is safe by default, and contains footguns for the user that can be pretty destructive.
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Show HN: DualShock calibration in the browser using WebHID
FWIW Mozilla updated their position on Web Serial API to "neutral" and clarified that they might be okay with enabling the API with an add-on.
https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/#webserial
Allowing serial but not HID would be really strange. With HID you get standard identifiers that let you filter out devices that are too dangerous for the web. With serial you get nothing. Even if you know a device is dangerous, there's no way to protect users from it.
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Tailwind CSS v4.0.0 Alpha
Hasn't FireFox been dragging their asses on @scope? https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/472
It took years to just convince them of the need for it. And I'm not sure anyone got convinced vs Chrome had already shipped it and Safari has it planned so they caved in.
Hard to believe FireFox used to be a leader of the modern web.
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An HTML Switch Control
As mentioned by others, OK idea, but not a fan that this isn't standardized. After a quick search+peruse, these seem to indicate that it's not around the corner either. Happy (/hope) to be corrected.
https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/4180
https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/990
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Platform issues which disadvantage Firefox compared to first-party browsers
Mozilla's position on these specs is nicely outlined publicly and transparently as part of their standards-positions project: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/100
I'm kinda glad it's not implemented in my browser, to be honest, because the whole thing seems like a security nightmare.
It's a shame it impacts some hobby usecases, but I don't think this outweighs the reasoning set out on the GitHub issue.
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What Progressive Web App (PWA) Can Do Today
This should have big warnings on it. Some of these are not web standards; they are features implemented unilaterally by Google in Blink that have been explicitly rejected by both Mozilla and Apple on privacy and security grounds.
Take Web Bluetooth, for example:
Mozilla:
> This model is unsustainable and presents a significant risk to users and their devices.
— https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/#web-bluetooth
Apple:
> Here are some examples of features we have decided to not yet implement due to fingerprinting, security, and other concerns, and where we do not yet see a path to resolving those concerns
— https://webkit.org/tracking-prevention/
This is Microsoft’s Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish bullshit applied to the web platform by Google. Google keeps implementing these things despite all other major rendering engines rejecting them, convinces people that they are part of the web, resulting in sites like this, then people start asking why Firefox and Safari are “missing functionality”. These are not part of the web platform, they are Google APIs that have been explicitly rejected.
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Why Are Tech Reporters Sleeping on the Biggest App Store Story?
Is BLE a PWA requirement? I think they explained their position pretty well here, regardless of whether I agree:
https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/95#iss...
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Reason to Use Firefox Is Sync That Works
I took a glance at Can I Use what the difference between the last public release of Firefox and Chrome is [1] and they don't really have that big of a difference in the eyes of normal use-cases? Some of these aren't implemented purely because of privacy reasons, the proposals aren't finished yet or complexity [2].
Why would Firefox need to change to Chromium engine? The only websites I notice that don't work with Firefox is because of user-agent targetting or just putting 5-second time-outs in Youtube code on non-chrome webbrowsers [3].
Can you give some examples of websites not working on Firefox?
[1] https://caniuse.com/?compare=chrome+120%2Cfirefox+121&compar...
[2] https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/
[3] https://www.neowin.net/news/youtube-seemingly-intentionally-...
- Mozilla's Position on CSS Scope
What are some alternatives?
idiomorph - A DOM-merging algorithm
webcontainer-core - Dev environments. In your web app.
htmx - </> htmx - high power tools for HTML
WHATWG HTML Standard - HTML Standard
AdaptiveCards - A new way for developers to exchange card content in a common and consistent way.
wpt - Test suites for Web platform specs — including WHATWG, W3C, and others
htmx-components - 🧩 Async HTMX + JSX
firefox-ios - Firefox for iOS
DivKit - DivKit is an open source cross-platform Server-Driven UI (SDUI) framework for iOS, Android, and Web. SDUI is a an emerging technique that leverage the server to build the user interfaces of their mobile app
WebKit - Home of the WebKit project, the browser engine used by Safari, Mail, App Store and many other applications on macOS, iOS and Linux.
dynamic_widget - A Backend-Driven UI toolkit, build your dynamic UI with json, and the json format is very similar with flutter widget code.
Fakeflix - Not the usual clone that you can find on the web.