hyperhyperspace-core VS solid

Not all CRDT libraries focus on text editing. For example, I'm working on a Byzantine fault tolerant general-purpose data sync library loosely based on CRDTs: https://www.hyperhyperspace.org

I'm finding it painfully difficult but it is evolving steadily.

I'm thinking there's an interesting parallel between my browser-based p2p project [1] and cloudflare workers / DurableObjects. Instead of DurableObjects, we got HashedObjects [2], and instead of workers running on an edge network somewhere, we got in-browser p2p nodes running a browser-to-browser mesh network.

[1] Hyper Hyper Space: https://www.hyperhyperspace.org

I agree with the author on the merits of the file abstraction, but I think the concept should be updated for networked devices. We need file formats that support both offline usage and seamless sync over the network.

For example, here I use a merkle DAG-based file format to represent CRDT-like types:

https://www.hyperhyperspace.org

The resulting abstraction can be universally looked up using a hash (or short sequence of words), can be modified offline and synchronized flawlessly. It's still WIP (for example, you still can't export it to an actual file, hehe).

> I've been kicking around the idea of writing a CRDT-based editor using this model.

I got around to creating a data layer (p2p, browser-based, CRDT-backed) for something like this:

https://github.com/hyperhyperspace/hyperhyperspace-core

I'd be interested in collaborating on your editor

I'm working on it, Ben [1].

Believe me, it is not easy thing to do.

[1] https://github.com/hyperhyperspace/hyperhyperspace-core

Look at Hyper Hyper Space!

https://github.com/hyperhyperspace/hyperhyperspace-core

Its goals are similar, the approach is more pragmatic (p2p data layer using standard web browsers and webrtc).

This doesn't support the various consumer cloud storage APIs, but you've just reminded me of a project I ran into years ago that seems to still be around: https://remotestorage.io/

There's also Solid which attempts to do something similar: https://solidproject.org/

It is surprising to me this is not talked about more. I see little to none online news, podcasts, YouTube videos or anything else where this is discussed. I only found out about it because of research I did on Tim Berners-Lee in preparation for a Career Day talk at my kids middle school. Otherwise I would have probably not known about it still today. And even after I found out and started watching YouTube videos on the topic, YouTube won't even suggest any related videos about it even after already watching multiple videos on the subject (Web 3.0, Solid Project, Decentralized Web...etc).. is Big Tech trying to keep the web from evolving into what Sir Tim Berners-Lee is proposing?

It's only an unreasonable amount of work if you assume that the user is managing a separate storage backend for each library. If you take the Tim Berners-Lee approach (re: https://solidproject.org/) then each user is only managing one storage backend: the one that stores their data. The marginal cost of hooking in one more library low.

We just have to get a little more fed up with all of these services and then the initial cost of setting it up in the first place will be worth it. Any day now...

Solid is a web native protocol to enable interoperable, read-write, collaborative, and decentralized web, truer to web's original vision.

Manas project(https://github.com/manomayam/manas/tree/main) aims to create a modular framework and ecosystem to create correct, robust storage servers adhering to Solid protocol in rust.

[Solid](https://solidproject.org/) is a web native protocol to enable interoperable, read-write, collaborative, and decentralized web, truer to web's original vision.

    Solid adds to existing Web standards to realise a space where individuals can maintain their autonomy, control their data and privacy, and choose applications and services to fulfil their needs.

You're describing Solid, not the Semantic Web. Granted, Solid uses Semantic technologies to achieve it. https://solidproject.org/

Tim Berners-Lee's Solid project is working on that. Put data in "pods" that are stored on pod servers, which are federated. You can self-host.

It could be a federated layer of identity & personal content decoupled from social platforms.

https://solidproject.org/

Check out https://solidproject.org (If you want a short intro I recently gave a ~30min talk about it: https://noeldemartin.com/fosdem)