AWS is playing chess, Cloudflare is playing Go

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  • hyperhyperspace-core

    A library to create p2p applications, using the browser as a full peer.

    I'm thinking there's an interesting parallel between my browser-based p2p project [1] and cloudflare workers / DurableObjects. Instead of DurableObjects, we got HashedObjects [2], and instead of workers running on an edge network somewhere, we got in-browser p2p nodes running a browser-to-browser mesh network.

    [1] Hyper Hyper Space: https://www.hyperhyperspace.org

  • solid

    Solid - Re-decentralizing the web (project directory) (by solid)

    But, does Cloudflare gives back control to the user? (like Sandstorm does)

    I think the spiritual successor of Sandstorm is Tim Berners-Lee's Solid https://solidproject.org/ that was recently discussed in this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28897373

    But, while Sandstorm is all about compartmentalizing access to data in a single server, having the document (grain) as its unit, Solid does this with multiple servers (called pods)

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  • examples

    Serverless Examples – A collection of boilerplates and examples of serverless architectures built with the Serverless Framework on AWS Lambda, Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud Functions, and more. (by serverless)

    > But two years from now CloudFlare could be doing the exact same stuff Amazon is doing now, and customers are locked in again, because no source code.

    I hear this argument often but it always rings hollow.

    A friend had a first gen iPod – when he wanted to switch, he discovered that the music he bought on iTunes couldn't be moved anywhere else because of DRM. That's lock in.

    But this morning I was looking at the source code of an app built against the Serverless framework[1] and what I'm seeing is a bog standard WSGI application that uses a library to transform the inbound AWS "proprietary bits" into WSGI[2]. I'm not worried about lock-in there because all API Gateway + Lambda do is "translate an HTTP request into a JSON object and toss it to an app"[3] – what source code am I missing? The underlying Lambda/APIGW code? OK, but do I need it to run it myself? Not really.

    Many – most? – AWS products tend towards this analysis. S3 is so locked in that, what, we now have multiple very high quality alternatives that are API compatible?

    The real risk of cloud vendor lock in, from where I sit, comes from egregious pricing models that make it cheap to get data in & expensive to push data out. But I'm not sure Cloudflare has the juice to make this play work: egress pricing is essentially free money for AWS, so they've got lots of room to cut costs there – from what I've heard from people who negotiate real bills with AWS, they're very happy to give you discounts there.

    [1]: https://github.com/serverless/examples/tree/master/aws-pytho...

    [2]: https://github.com/logandk/serverless-wsgi

    [3]: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/apigateway/latest/developerguide...

  • serverless-wsgi

    Serverless plugin to deploy WSGI applications (Flask/Django/Pyramid etc.) and bundle Python packages

    > But two years from now CloudFlare could be doing the exact same stuff Amazon is doing now, and customers are locked in again, because no source code.

    I hear this argument often but it always rings hollow.

    A friend had a first gen iPod – when he wanted to switch, he discovered that the music he bought on iTunes couldn't be moved anywhere else because of DRM. That's lock in.

    But this morning I was looking at the source code of an app built against the Serverless framework[1] and what I'm seeing is a bog standard WSGI application that uses a library to transform the inbound AWS "proprietary bits" into WSGI[2]. I'm not worried about lock-in there because all API Gateway + Lambda do is "translate an HTTP request into a JSON object and toss it to an app"[3] – what source code am I missing? The underlying Lambda/APIGW code? OK, but do I need it to run it myself? Not really.

    Many – most? – AWS products tend towards this analysis. S3 is so locked in that, what, we now have multiple very high quality alternatives that are API compatible?

    The real risk of cloud vendor lock in, from where I sit, comes from egregious pricing models that make it cheap to get data in & expensive to push data out. But I'm not sure Cloudflare has the juice to make this play work: egress pricing is essentially free money for AWS, so they've got lots of room to cut costs there – from what I've heard from people who negotiate real bills with AWS, they're very happy to give you discounts there.

    [1]: https://github.com/serverless/examples/tree/master/aws-pytho...

    [2]: https://github.com/logandk/serverless-wsgi

    [3]: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/apigateway/latest/developerguide...

  • miniflare

    🔥 Fully-local simulator for Cloudflare Workers

    If it helps, the concept is super-simple and reimplementing such a service won't be hard if anyone tries to make it interoperable with Workers. Miniflare (a dev environment for Workers) implements it in just over 200 loc[0], with the only backend beint Workers KV for data storage (<500 loc if you count that).

    0: https://github.com/cloudflare/miniflare/blob/master/src/modu...

  • fusionauth-issues

    FusionAuth issue submission project

    This is our major need right now:

    https://github.com/FusionAuth/fusionauth-issues/issues/1393

    Basically, providing a static IP to some EC2 instance traffic so that folks can add an IP to their firewall.

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