htmx VS kotlindl

When I work with HTMX I need isolated component that can be reusable a form. So I create a PHP Function that generate the Input Datalist.

I was inspired by htmz (which was in turn inspired by htmx) and how the author got pretty close to a basic htmx-like experience just using an iframe. I wanted to push it a little further so whipped this demo together. My submission demonstrates progressive enhancement for the form - with js enabled the request targets an iframe that is inserted into the dom, meaning the page doesn't actually navigate (similar to event.preventDefault()). The iframe receives the html response from the request and on load triggers a function to swap out it's contents into the main page.

As described on htmx.org: "htmx gives you access to AJAX, CSS Transitions, WebSockets and Server Sent Events directly in HTML, using attributes, so you can build modern user interfaces with the simplicity and power of hypertext"

Apart from the source code itself, the repo's README also gives a bit more details about the various packages I used.

1. htmx: https://htmx.org/

Also, there’s some response header juggling you have to do when submitting forms that have a validation step before redirecting: https://github.com/bigskysoftware/htmx/issues/369

I’ve tried to iron out any footguns or server requirements I’ve bumped into while using HTMX & Hotwire in my projects.

✨ In recent months, I have been developing web projects using GOTTHA stack: Go + Templ + Tailwind CSS + htmx + Alpine.js. As soon as I'm ready to talk about all the subtleties and pitfalls, I'll post it on my social networks.

I've been digging into HTMX lately (using Python web frameworks) and find the concepts and approach to be interesting and promising. The idea of hypermedia driven systems over the current practice of JavaScript based frameworks (I never really got into React, played with Vue, and enjoy Svelte/SvelteKit) and the ability to chose your language/framework for the backend while primarily leveraging HTML/CSS on the frontend just seems refreshing.

Apparently it changed from 2-clause BSD: https://github.com/bigskysoftware/htmx/commit/e16f1865a494b6...

(The zero clause license drops the requirements for preserving the copyright notice when distributing)

It would be a sin not to start with something that prides itself on being the front-end library of peace. HTMX skyrocketed in popularity in 2023, gaining most of its GitHub stars during the past year. HTMX is not your average JS framework. If you work in HTMX, you will spend most of your time in the world of hypermedia, looking at web development from a completely different pair of eyes as compared to our usual JS-heavy outlook on modern web development. HTMX leverages the power of the concept of HATEOAS (Hypermedia as the Engine of Application State), enabling developers to access browser features directly from HTML, instead of using Javascript.

This is a really nice sample app (works out of the box) that Jetbrains have made to showcase the capabilities of this Kotlin Deep Learning library https://github.com/Kotlin/kotlindl

There are Java bindings for TensorFlow, but that's quite low level. I tried to see if I can get some Keras API for Scala, but I'm no expert and haven't had enough time to invest in this, so it's stuck in alpha. Maybe I develop it slow burning over the next year. A bit envious that Kotlin has a Keras-like library.

KotlinDL 0.3 is available now on Maven Central with a variety of new features — check out all the changes that are coming to the new release!

Could you please add an issue with your use-case and proposed solution? Or write here more details. Do you need just serialization to objects in memory? or just in bytes?

While KotlinDL seems to be a good solution by Jetbrains, I would personally stick to Java frameworks like DL4J for a better community support and likely more features.

For deep learning this is your best bet: https://github.com/jetbrains/kotlindl

So, the KotlinDL library could solve classification and regression tasks on tabular data and image data.

Thank you for your feedback! Kotlin∇ is a research prototype for building differentiable programs from basic primitives. If you’re looking for a higher-level API, KotlinDL [1] or KInference [2] might be a better fit for building end-user applications such as image, speech or language processing.

[1]: https://github.com/JetBrains/KotlinDL

[2]: https://github.com/JetBrains-Research/kinference/