hamilton VS haystack

I always thought Hamilton [1] does a good job of giving enough visual hooks that draw you in.

I also noticed this pattern where library authors sometimes do a bit extra in terms of discussing and even promoting their competitors, and it makes me trust them more. A “heres why ours is better and everyone else sucks …” section always comes across as the infomercial character who is having quite a hard time peeling an apple to the point you wonder if this the first time they’ve used hands.

One thing wish for is a tool that’s essentially just Celery that doesn’t require a message broker (and can just use a database), and which is supported on Windows. There’s always a handful of edge cases where we’re pulling data from an old 32-bit system on Windows. And basically every system has some not-quite-ergonomic workaround that’s as much work as if you’d just built it yourself.

It seems like it’s just sending a JSON message over a queue or HTTP API and the worker receives it and runs the task. Maybe it’s way harder than I’m envisioning (but I don’t think so because I’ve already written most of it).

I guess that’s one thing I’m not clear on with Bruin, can I run workers if different physical locations and have them carry out the tasks in the right order? Or is this more of a centralized thing (meaning even if its K8s or Dask or Ray, those are all run in a cluster which happens to be distributed, but they’re all machines sitting in the same subnet, which isn’t the definition of a “distributed task” I’m going for.

[1] https://github.com/DAGWorks-Inc/hamilton

Yep. When I was designing https://github.com/dagworks-inc/hamilton part of the idea was to make it easy to understand what and where. That is, enable one to grep for function definitions and their downstream use easily, and where people can't screw this up. You'd be surprised how easy it is to make a code base where grep doesn't help you all that much (at least in the python data transform world) ...

Graph-based libraries for building ML/AI systems:

- Burr -- build AI applications/agents as state machines https://github.com/dagworks-inc/burr

- Hamilton -- build dataflows as DAGs: https://github.com/dagworks-inc/hamilton

Looking for feedback -- we had some good initial traction on HN, and are looking for OS users/contributors/people who are building complimentary tooling!

Note that this uses simple OpenAI calls — you can replace this with Langchain, LlamaIndex, Hamilton (or something else) if you prefer more abstraction, and delegate to whatever LLM you like to use. And, you should probably use something a little more concrete (E.G. instructor) to guarantee output shape.

In this post, we’ll show how your team can turn any utility function(s) into reusable IPython Jupyter magics for a better notebook experience. As an example, we’ll use Hamilton, my open source library, to motivate the creation of a magic that facilitates better development ergonomics for using it. You needn’t know what Hamilton is to understand this post.

We built an app with it -- https://blog.dagworks.io/p/building-a-lightweight-experiment. You can see the code here https://github.com/DAGWorks-Inc/hamilton/blob/main/hamilton/....

Usually we've been prototyping with streamlit, but found that at times to be clunky. FastUI still has rough edges, but we made it work for our lightweight app.

This library is old news? Is there anything new that they've added that's noteworthy to take it for another spin?

[disclaimer I'm a maintainer of Hamilton] Otherwise FYI Prophet gels well with https://github.com/DAGWorks-Inc/hamilton for setting up your features and dataset for fitting & prediction[/disclaimer].

Ideal For: Building question-answering systems and document-heavy retrieval applications. GitHub Repository

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🌟 Haystack on GitHub

Did you really have to pick the same name as the Haystack open source AI framework? https://haystack.deepset.ai/ https://github.com/deepset-ai/haystack

It's a very active project and it's confusing to have two projects with the same name. Besides, I don't understand why you'd give a "2D digital whiteboard that automatically draws connections between code as you navigate and edit files" the name haystack.

I was confused for a bit but there is no relation to https://haystack.deepset.ai/

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4. Haystack by Deepset | Github | tutorial

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