php
sozluk-cgi
| php | sozluk-cgi | |
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| 7 | 3 | |
| 63 | 210 | |
| - | - | |
| 5.7 | 10.0 | |
| 6 months ago | about 8 years ago | |
| HTML | Pascal | |
| MIT License | MIT License |
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php
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What is your favorite programming language?
I thought you might enjoy this, if you haven't seen it already.
- PHP is Prolog implemented in C, compiled to WASM, speaking CGI, executed by a Rust runtime, interpreting PHP-style templates
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PHP: Prolog Home Page
When I clicked the last commit message was too good. Preserving just in case they are doing rapid releases: https://github.com/guregu/php/commit/65b1e991f473d6ac0dd9de4...
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The beauty of CGI and simple design
Recently I enjoyed some "retrofuturistic" development with WASM and CGI. Spin[1], a webserver written in Rust, can execute WASI[2] binaries that speak CGI. You can then deploy it to Fermyon Cloud or your own server and it "just works". It's a wonderful mix of old and new. I used it for PHP (Prolog Home Page): https://github.com/guregu/php
[1]: https://spin.fermyon.dev/
[2]: WASI is a POSIX-ish standard for WASM that gives you all the low level stuff like standard input and output. It includes all the bits and pieces needed for CGI to work.
sozluk-cgi
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Ask HN: What's your "it's not stupid if it works" story?
Using CGI protocol on a Windows server. IIS (Windows' own web server) basically interfaces with executables by running them, feeding them HTTP headers, and server variables through environment variables, and gets the response HTTP headers and the body from their STDOUT. It's very inefficient, of course, since every request requires spawning a new copy of the executable, but it had worked fine in its first months :)
Here is a very simple example from the original sources: https://github.com/ssg/sozluk-cgi/blob/master/hede.pas
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The beauty of CGI and simple design
I wrote Eksi Sozluk, the most popular Turkish social platform to date, back in 1999 using Delphi as CGI executables[1]. Delphi was the tool that I knew best, and CGI worked for me at the beginning. I almost immediately started having problems with EXE files constantly active, making updates impossible (as it was Windows based), which required restarting the server for any kind of update.
CGI executables also caused problems when I switched to an Alpha AXP RISC server which emulated x86, bringing the performance to a crawl. That made me switch to classic ASP, and about 10 years later, to ASP.NET MVC with routing, unit tests, abstractions, jQuery, all the shiny things at the time.
Web didn't stop there of course; there came SPA's, React, Vue and whatnot.
Now, seeing the yearning for CGI in 2023 feels funny. Have we come full circle? :)
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[1] https://github.com/ssg/sozluk-cgi
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