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Show HN: I built a free in-browser Llama 3 chatbot powered by WebGPU
Works for me.
WebGPU support is behind a couple flags on Linux: https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/wiki/Implementation-Status
- WGSL Is Terrible
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WebGPU now available for testing in Safari Technology Preview
People keep spreading this incredibly misleading statement, and yours is even more misleading (suggesting Apple opposed a 'GPU WASM')
By all accounts, Apple's /only/ stance was that if WebGPU used SPIR-V it would be a non-starter for them, due to ongoing legal issues between Apple and Khronos.
Apple actually proposed WebHLSL in collaboration with Microsoft, to have HLSL be the standard.
Mozilla employee's stance[0] was that SPIRV was too low level, did not fit with the goals of WebGPU portability and security, and expressed concern that Khronos may add functionality to SPIRV they cannot support in WebGPU like raytracing instructions .. 'So we'd always be on the verge of forking SPIR-V in some way.'
It was also noted by many people that even if a bytecode format was used, it would still have to be translated to the target (HLSL/DXIL, MSL, etc.) in almost the same way a text format would.
Nobody proposed a 'GPU WASM equivalent' or an alternative bytecode format.
The hard truth is that shader compilation is a fucking nightmare, people do not realize how bad it is across the different native APIs. SPIR-V is good, but it doesn't solve that - and presents other challenges if you are a web browser API. Vulkan and SPIRV are not the golden goose many make them out to be.
[0] https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/issues/847#issuecomment-642...
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Show HN: WebGPU Particles Simulation
Yes it is still a bit new. WebGPU is not finished and is still being worked on: https://webgpu.io/
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Capturing the WebGPU Ecosystem
WebGPU currently doesn't support the "bindless" resource access model (see: https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/issues/380).
The "max number of sampled texture per shader stage" is a runtime device limit, and the minimal value for that seems to be 16. So texture atlasses are still a thing in WebGPU.
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Why aren't we using highly efficient int8 calcualtions in quants? (maybe eli14?)
There's even an implementation under discussion to have the dp4a instruction added to WebGPU (https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/issues/2677)
- WebGPU – All of the cores, none of the canvas
- How to get Chromium working with the Vulkan driver on a RPi4?
- Anyone has Chromium WebGPU working?
- [Rust_Gamedev] WGSL est-il un bon choix?
Vulkan-Docs
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GPU synchronization in Godot 4.3 is getting a major upgrade
Pipelines (or in general terms PSOs) are the most problematic aspect of Vulkan / DX12 - much more than synchronization! Large parts of the gamedev industry seems to recognize all the performance issues with pipelines and therefore companies are experimenting with newer models like the VK_EXT_shader_object extension ("Vulkan without Pipelines": https://www.khronos.org/blog/you-can-use-vulkan-without-pipe...).
I've written a detailed comment about this before here (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37843946#37845431) but for a much more comprehensive explanation by an engineer from Nintendo read the initial proposal for the VK_EXT_shader_object extension: https://github.com/KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Docs/blob/main/propos...).
There's also Casey Muratori's mail to the Vulkan advisory on 2015 that basically predicts this whole clusterfuck would happen: https://github.com/cmuratori/misc/blob/main/vulkan_dynamic_s...
- Vulkan 1.3.273 spec update
- [Roadmap Feedback] Function Pointers with some limitations
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New Vulkan Documentation Website
Apple -> MoltenVK is an emulation layer and doesn't give you as much control as using Metal directly.
Nintendo and Sony prefer their own APIs, NVN and LibGNM, and AIUI Vulkan is a second-class API on those platforms which does not offer as much power, it is widely understood studios use NVN and LibGNM to get access to the real hardware on those platforms.
Windows/AMD/NVidia/Intel -> HW manufacturers tend to prototype and release new features with D3D first and then 'backport' them to Vulkan after a while. DirectX 12 for example had mesh shaders for over 2 years before Vulkan got a vendor neutral extension for them[0]
Android and Linux are the only platform where Vulkan is a first-class citizen.
You could maybe argue Nvidia treats Vulkan as a first-class citizen because they tend to have vendor-specific Vulkan extensions for the latest features available before anyone else. But otherwise, no, Vulkan is not a first-class API anywhere except Linux and Android.
Graphics API wars are alive and well.
[0] https://github.com/KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Docs/issues/1423
- Vulkan 1.3.267 spec update
- Vulkan 1.3.266 spec update
- Vulkan 1.3.262 spec update
- Vulkan 1.3.260 spec update
- Vulkan 1.3.257 spec update
- Vulkan 1.3.256 spec update
What are some alternatives?
wgsl.vim - WGSL syntax highlight for vim
wgsl-cheat-sheet - Cheat sheet for WGSL syntax for developers coming from GLSL.
pyodide - Pyodide is a Python distribution for the browser and Node.js based on WebAssembly
vkd3d-proton - Fork of VKD3D. Development branches for Proton's Direct3D 12 implementation.
noclip.website - A digital museum of video game levels
webgpu-wgsl-hello-triangle - An example of how to render a triangle with WebGPU using WebGPU Shading Language - the "Hello world!" of computer graphics.
BestBuy-GPU-Bot - BestBuy Bot is an Add to cart and Auto Checkout Bot. This auto buying bot can search the item repeatedly on the ITEM page using one keyword. Once the desired item is available it can add to cart and checkout very fast. This auto purchasing BestBuy Bot can work on Firefox Browser so it can run in all Operating Systems. It can run for multiple items simultaneously.
Vulkan-Headers - Vulkan header files and API registry
wgpu-rs - Rust bindings to wgpu native library
WASI - WebAssembly System Interface
Vulkan - Examples and demos for the new Vulkan API