glimesh.tv VS Mercure

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We use Phoenix and LiveView to power all of our non-video interactions on Glimesh.tv[0] and the immediate out of the box features and performance are unmatched. LiveView allowed us to get a completely real time updating channel where streamers can edit their metadata (game, title, viewer count, etc) and all of the viewers can see it in real time. Not to mention we implemented a distributed chat system that sends message updates in real time to both browser clients and API clients. Both of these features combined amount to less than 1000 lines of code and "just work" across multiple web nodes.

It can be daunting to jump into such a strange world as a LiveView environment may look (Elixir syntax, OTP terminology, etc) but honestly once you dig in deeper, everything just makes sense. LiveView (and HEEx) continue to be very simple to understand abstractions on top of the rock solid OTP platform. It's a joy to build real time applications using it, and I very much appreciate the "developer experience" focus both Chris & Jose have for us Elixir devs!

I'm excited for the launch of Phoenix 1.6 and HEEx is shaping up to be a complete replacement for your traditional SPA + Backend API, and using one consistent language for your full stack really has very freeing & powerful benefits, especially for small teams!

[0] https://github.com/Glimesh/glimesh.tv/

You're also right on the subscription statement in the FAQ, I've submitted a bug for us to fix here: https://github.com/Glimesh/glimesh.tv/issues/687

Are you aware of things like websockets and mercure.rocks?

It could be implemented with STOMP, or Mercure (goes well with API-Platform, written in PHP/Symfony), you could write your own with the help of nchan and scale it via Redis. If it's a web service, the best practices for operating and scaling are well established, Godot then just becomes another client.

You can try https://mercure.rocks/.

It's worth looking at something like Mercure , which is used by API Platform

Pusher might be one of these systems, Mercure is another one (which you can host yourself). Mercure has good documentation and some examples in various languages, including PHP: https://mercure.rocks/docs/ecosystem/awesome#examples.

You can use Mercure https://mercure.rocks/ , Mercure uses http2.

I actually was thinking about this when I saw https://github.com/dunglas/mercure project to become a Caddy plugin. But I did not find enough reasoning to try this with Centrifugo at that point, and still... Seems awesome from one side - tight integration with a web-server, no extra network between LB and Centrifugo. But will this be useful in practice and find its users? 🤔 That's the question I don't have an answer yet.

Polling is kind of ok (data might change between poll events), but real-time updates are better. So If you don't mind adding an extra service, then take a look at mercure.

Two more questions: - Am I to understand The Guild now recommends GraphQL Yoga over Helix? - Could something like Mercure be included in the recipes ? (this would be a nice solution for serverless)