geckos.io VS nakama

First, I would try exchange Socket.io over Geckos - https://github.com/geckosio/geckos.io.

I agree the scope is massive. I think a lot of people struggle with figuring out how to even get started with multiplayer dev, and I hope Hathora can be a useful tool for them.

Thanks for linking matchbox - I've been looking into https://github.com/geckosio/geckos.io as a way to integrate WebRTC into Hathora

https://github.com/pion/datachannel looks great! Thank you for sharing your project with the open source community.

I just starred it, it does seem like it'd alleviate a some of the pain. Another similar (more end to end) project I had come across is: geckos.io. This previous HN thread[1] discusses some of the (at least perceived) difficulty with using WebRTC as a "WebSockets but UDP" solution.

I'm not sure I follow the concern about congestion control. UDP doesn't have it either, presumably since if you're building an application that requires such latency sensitivity, you don't mind rolling your own congestion control algorithm that makes most sense given your application's specific needs, right? Pretty much all FPS games do this, as far as I understand.

[0] https://github.com/geckosio/geckos.io

nakama: https://github.com/heroiclabs/nakama

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you can do that, but for what platform? html5? windows? android?, the most easiest way is use firestore a service from firebase (offer a free tier), it is the easiest way not the better, other way is use a service like nakama that is more professional and something in the middle can be mmm pocketbase or supabase.

I recommend the backend solution called Nakama since you’re using Godot: https://heroiclabs.com/

You could create all this yourself, or you can use existing solutions which handle all this (and much more I didn't mention). One that I'm aware of that works with Godot is Nakama. They have a paid hosting option, or you can host the application yourself.

I read using nakama server for this is convinient. https://heroiclabs.com/

Does anyone have recommendations on what to use? I've done a bit of research and found https://heroiclabs.com/. It's a bit unclear to me if it actually supports server side state because it talks about 'hosts' a bit, but I think it does...and it seems like you can host it yourself to avoid the $600 a MONTH! pricetag. But any other recommendations? Has anyone used heroic before?

You might be interested in Nakama server from https://heroiclabs.com/

Depending on how much effort you want to put in to this, you might consider something like Nakama: https://github.com/heroiclabs/nakama

There have been mentions of Normcore, Fish-Net, and Nakama as well.