fynedesk VS serenity

We (I am one of the developers) also have https://github.com/FyshOS/fynedesk as a desktop environment.

If U like a Go Desktop try this: https://github.com/fyne-io/fynedesk

The Oberon channel has several videos of Oberon in action,

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=The+Oberon+Chan...

While Oberon was quite cool, people should also learn about its Xerox influence,

"Eric Bier Demonstrates Cedar"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_dt7NG38V4

Also dive into what happened afterwards, Oberon-2, Active Oberon, Zonnon,...

Active Oberon could be considered quite modern, also makes the distinction between safe and unsafe pointers, which improves the experience for low level coding.

https://github.com/metacore/A2OS

One of the best things about these systems is proving what systems programming with automatic memory management were capable of.

Given Oberon-2's influence on Go, maybe improving Fyne (https://fyne.io/fynedesk/) with something like gRPC for the dynamic experience, could be a possible sucessor.

The thing is with go is it's kind of made for web applications. It's made by google for google. Taking a look at the standard library you can see the most fleshed out parts are for general system access, networking and particularly http, and crypto. People have obviously made things outside of those scopes like fynedesk, but that's where the focus of golang is.

Another angle for when a toolkit is mature could be when it’s used for a full desktop environment :). MacOS and Windows native toolkits obviously tick the box. GTK+ has Gnome, Qt powers KDE (both have Go bindings), Enlightenment is powered by EFL (no Go support yet). Fyne is being used for FyneDesk https://github.com/fyne-io/fynedesk

One other idea that I had: There are new approaches to the desktop like e.g. FyneDesk, a *nix desktop environment written in Golang (using its own GUI toolkit). It's BSD-licensed (3-clause) and I would expect the team being more than happy with anybody trying to make it available to a wider audience. Might be worth a thought.

100% agree on the theming, quick glance at the current implementation seems to indicate hardcoded values (I am assuming this is an early spec) https://github.com/fyne-io/fynedesk/blob/master/theme/theme.go

we were thinking of contributing to this project fyne-io/fynedesk: A full desktop environment for Linux/Unix using Fyne (github.com)

SerenityOS replicates that look and feel. It is also implemented in a dialect of C++ that adheres to some of the good parts of C++98: https://serenityos.org

One example of a useful technique

https://serenityos.org/ apparently only makes source code available. There are no binary images of the OS to install

I think Andreas said this functions like a little test -- if you're not willing to build it from source, then you probably wouldn't be a good contributor anyway.

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Likewise, my shell project provides source tarballs only, right now - https://www.oilshell.org/release/0.21.0/

It is packaged in a number of places, which I appreciate. That means some other people are willing to do some work.

And they provide good feedback.

I would like it to be more widely available, but yeah I definitely see that you need to "gate" peanut gallery feedback a bit, because it takes up a lot of time.

Of course, it's a tricky balance, because you also want feedback from casual users, to make the project better.

Indeed, given the existence of `JS::NonnullGCPtr`, `JS::GcPtr` intentionally corresponds to a nullable pointer, so it seems dangerous to convert one to a reference without a null-check.

That said, a naive code search finds what *may* be more cases of this pattern:

https://github.com/search?q=repo%3ASerenityOS%2Fserenity+%2F...

Eg: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/a68b134e6dea5065... -> https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/a68b134e6dea5065...

In some of those search results, it is fine because there is a preceding null-check, and obviously I know nothing about this code other than this naive search result, but perhaps it would be prudent to vet all of them.

It is a SerenityOS project. You can find the answer to that question in their primary project's FAQ[1].

1. https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/master/Documenta...

https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity

The best way to write proper exception free C++ is not to use the C++ Standard Library.

I initially confused it with Serenity OS prior to watching the video: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity

My contributions to SerenityOS[0] helped me get my current job. My team lead (who was also my interviewer) was interested in what I did since I listed some of it in my CV, and I showed him some PRs I made and explained what went into each of them. It was really exciting because I didn't have professional experience with low-level development, and basically got the job due to hobby programming.

[0]: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pulls?q=is%3Apr+autho...

Definitely not "literally impossible", just a great deal of work. https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/tree/master/Ladybird