fynedesk
sciter
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928 | 2,562 | |
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8.5 | 0.0 | |
about 2 months ago | 12 months ago | |
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fynedesk
- FyneDesk – Linux desktop environment in Go
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Making cross-platform software using Linux that also runs on BSD
We (I am one of the developers) also have https://github.com/FyshOS/fynedesk as a desktop environment.
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Build a Desktop App in Go Using Wails and React
If U like a Go Desktop try this: https://github.com/fyne-io/fynedesk
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Project Oberon
The Oberon channel has several videos of Oberon in action,
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=The+Oberon+Chan...
While Oberon was quite cool, people should also learn about its Xerox influence,
"Eric Bier Demonstrates Cedar"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_dt7NG38V4
Also dive into what happened afterwards, Oberon-2, Active Oberon, Zonnon,...
Active Oberon could be considered quite modern, also makes the distinction between safe and unsafe pointers, which improves the experience for low level coding.
https://github.com/metacore/A2OS
One of the best things about these systems is proving what systems programming with automatic memory management were capable of.
Given Oberon-2's influence on Go, maybe improving Fyne (https://fyne.io/fynedesk/) with something like gRPC for the dynamic experience, could be a possible sucessor.
- FyneDesk, a fresh look at what it means to be a desktop environment
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Why Go over Python?
The thing is with go is it's kind of made for web applications. It's made by google for google. Taking a look at the standard library you can see the most fleshed out parts are for general system access, networking and particularly http, and crypto. People have obviously made things outside of those scopes like fynedesk, but that's where the focus of golang is.
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Is there is good GUI for Golang ?
Another angle for when a toolkit is mature could be when it’s used for a full desktop environment :). MacOS and Windows native toolkits obviously tick the box. GTK+ has Gnome, Qt powers KDE (both have Go bindings), Enlightenment is powered by EFL (no Go support yet). Fyne is being used for FyneDesk https://github.com/fyne-io/fynedesk
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As a longtime BSD user, I have my doubts about our future.
One other idea that I had: There are new approaches to the desktop like e.g. FyneDesk, a *nix desktop environment written in Golang (using its own GUI toolkit). It's BSD-licensed (3-clause) and I would expect the team being more than happy with anybody trying to make it available to a wider audience. Might be worth a thought.
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Pure Go desktop for Linux/BSD, FyneDesk reaches v0.2
100% agree on the theming, quick glance at the current implementation seems to indicate hardcoded values (I am assuming this is an early spec) https://github.com/fyne-io/fynedesk/blob/master/theme/theme.go
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Looking for an interesting project to contribute
we were thinking of contributing to this project fyne-io/fynedesk: A full desktop environment for Linux/Unix using Fyne (github.com)
sciter
- Show HN: Open Source TailwindCSS UI Components
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Show HN: Dropflow, a CSS layout engine for node or <canvas>
> wondering if css and svg could be used as abstraction over graphics and UI libraries
There's another project called Sciter that uses CSS to target native graphics libraries: https://sciter.com
> I wonder how hard it was to implement css. I've heard it can be pretty complex.
It was hard, but the biggest barrier is the obscurity of the knowledge.
Text layout is the hardest, because working with glyphs and iterating them in reverse for RTL is brain-breaking. And line wrapping gets really complicated. It's also the most obscure because nobody has written down everything you need to know in one place. After I finished block layout early on, I had to stop for a couple of years (only working a few hours a week though) and learn all of the ins, outs, dos, and don'ts around shaping and itemizing text. A lot of that I learned by reading Pango's [1] source code, and a lot I pieced together from Google searches.
But other than that, the W3C specifications cover almost everything. The CSS2 standard [2] is one of the most beautiful things I've ever read. It's internally consistent, concise, and obviously the result of years of deliberation, trial and error. (CSS3 is great, but CSS2 is the bedrock for everything).
[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/
- Ask HN: Fastest cross-platform GUI stack/strategy
- Bringing Back Horizontal Rules in HTML Select Elements
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Immediate Mode GUI Programming
otherwise, if we have only retained mode as in browsers, we will need to modify the DOM heavily and create temporary elements for handles.
[1] https://sciter.com
- This year in Servo: over 1000 pull requests and beyond
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Rusty revenant Servo returns to render once more
I've still never used it but I've long been curious about Sciter:
https://sciter.com
- Ode to the M1
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So you want to write a GUI framework (2021)
These bullet points are exactly what I did in Sciter (https://sciter.com)
- Windowing
-- Tabs
-- Menus
-- Painting
-- Animation
-- Text
-The compositor
-Handling input
-- Pointer input
-- Keyboard input
- Accessibility
- Internationalization and localization
- Cross-platform APIs
- The web view
- Native look and feel
On top of that DOM and CSS implementations to achieve declarative UI. And JS as a languuage behind UI - declarative in some sense way of defining UI behavior.
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Servo, the parallel browser engine written in Rust
I'm not sure if it can support all the libraries but yes it can be used to make desktop apps. Theres also Sciter.
https://sciter.com/
What are some alternatives?
fyne - Cross platform GUI toolkit in Go inspired by Material Design
webview - Tiny cross-platform webview library for C/C++. Uses WebKit (GTK/Cocoa) and Edge WebView2 (Windows).
go-playground - Better Go Playground powered by React and Monaco editor
qt - Qt binding for Go (Golang) with support for Windows / macOS / Linux / FreeBSD / Android / iOS / Sailfish OS / Raspberry Pi / AsteroidOS / Ubuntu Touch / JavaScript / WebAssembly
cfssl - CFSSL: Cloudflare's PKI and TLS toolkit
tauri - Build smaller, faster, and more secure desktop applications with a web frontend.
pigo - Fast face detection, pupil/eyes localization and facial landmark points detection library in pure Go.
flexboard - React component library for re-sizable sidebars
Wails - Create beautiful applications using Go
RmlUi - RmlUi - The HTML/CSS User Interface library evolved
kaf - Modern CLI for Apache Kafka, written in Go.
NanoGUI - Minimalistic GUI library for OpenGL