foundation-faq-2020 VS foundation.rust-lang.org

You can read all about it here, a great FAQ put together when the foundation was first started.

No. As I understand it, https://github.com/rust-lang/foundation-faq-2020/blob/main/FAQ.md#q-hiring

Not quite 50/50, but from the FAQ (https://github.com/rust-lang/foundation-faq-2020/blob/main/FAQ.md#q-bylaws):

That is possible; see this FAQ for more details. But the foundation will start with small things and plans to extend its scope with time. It's unlikely that you'll notice a difference anytime soon. The foundation could potentially pay contributors for implementing features, but there are currently no plans for this.

While Rust seems like a great programming language, I have come across some criticisms of it which appear to have some validity. Comparatively more impactful than what Drew describes here is the trademark problem that's listed on Hyperbola GNU/Linux site's webpage titled Rust's Freedom Flaws: https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:main:rusts_freedo...

*Please be aware that the rust project is now independent of Mozilla, so the following is not based on the latest information available.

Rust and also Cargo (the Rust package manager) violate the freedom to redistribute without “explicit” approval. Their trademark license imposes requirements for the distribution of modified versions that make it inconvenient to exercise freedom 3. The Rust's Media Guide says it merely supplements the official Mozilla trademark policy; it doesn't replace it. Since their trademark policy applies, then everything in that list (including Rust and Cargo) pulls in the same issue as Firefox and Thunderbird.

In short, Mozilla won't be happy with us applying patches and modifications to their trademarked language without “explicit approval”, except for non-commercial usage, so it is a freedom issue. For further references, there is a report in Rust about those trademark restrictions and Niko's response (one of the members of the Rust Legal Team).

I'm not an expert in this stuff, but this sounds like it could bear some weight. Currently the problem has not been resolved and it is still a matter to be considered by the rust board. Here is the latest thread on the problem I could find on the rust-lang GitHub: https://github.com/rust-lang/foundation-faq-2020/issues/35

They have an unhelpfully generic answer to that in their FAQ: "After spending a significant amount of time researching potential umbrella organizations, we decided that our best option was to incorporate an independent entity. Rust is a technology and community that is value driven and we simply didn’t find an organization that we felt was aligned with our community goals. This does mean more work for us, especially upfront, but we think the tradeoff is worth it."

https://github.com/rust-lang/foundation-faq-2020/blob/main/F...

Through the Fast Forward program, we give free services and support to open source projects and the nonprofits that support them. We support many of the world’s top programming languages (like Python, Rust, Ruby, and the wonderful Scratch), foundational technologies (cURL, the Linux kernel, Kubernetes, OpenStreetMap), and projects that make the internet better and more fun for everyone (Inkscape, Mastodon, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Terms of Service; Didn’t Read).

This is why some of the bigger programming languages have a consortium behind them, dedicated to maintaining the language and making decisions for its continued improvement. When you look at the logos at the bottom of the Rust Foundation page, you can see some pretty big names.

The Rust foundation, which is a nonprofit general (delaware) corporation with bylaws, employees, a normal legal existence. It owns the trademarks and domain names, acts as a legal and administrative point of contact when one is needed, and has I think operational and funding responsibility for infrastructure (crates.io, CI, etc.) The foundation has members which are almost all corporate sponsors who donate money (and sometimes people) to further its mandate. There's a fairly broad set of companies involved here: Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Meta, Huawei, etc. etc.

When you say enterprise, who do you mean? Rust is absolutely being pushed by faang et al for example. Just look at the bottom of the Rust foundation page[0]. You do not see this support for things like Nim or Julia[1].

[0] https://foundation.rust-lang.org/

The Rust language is supported by the Rust Foundation, more details on that website. Financial donors to the Rust Foundation are about 30-40 companies currently, the bigger ones include Mozilla, Google, Microsoft, AWS, and Meta

> https://foundation.rust-lang.org/ 15,000

With all due respect, they don't need this money. Rust is a great project, and deserving, but they already have plenty of sponsors.

I would have rather seen 150 x $100 go to smaller projects. So much great software is being written, by people who are barely scraping by, and even $100 could be the motivation for someone to finish something widely useful.

So, let's clarify a couple things first about how the Rust and Cargo crates work. First off, there is no single company or entity who's the sole contributor to the core Rust tooling. Rust is an open source project to which anyone can view the codebase and contribute (though there's a select set of people who are responsible for approving changes to it and managing releases). It's worth noting this doesn't mean there isn't an organization responsible for the project however. The Rust Foundation are a non-profit who manages the core repositories and tooling, and is also responsible for setting high level goals for the language.

I don't think it is the same as Java. There is no single company owning Rust. Several big companies are investing in rust foundation (https://foundation.rust-lang.org/) including Google in particular which had quite a story regarding Java.

Recently, several big techs like Google, Microsoft, Mozilla and Amazon jointly launched a non-profit organization to help the language maintain itself by giving full support to the maintainers who lead and develop the project. Here at Vaultree we use Rust in our product and services, as we need to deliver data with reliability and agility to our customers, as we are in a business line where any error or inaccuracy can be costly, the adoption of Rust was a great fit for us.