firefly-boot VS factor

Firefly, curly braces:

I'm still working on Firefly, a language with first class capabilities.

Since there's no other way for `deleteDirectory` to obtain capabilities than to recieve them as arguments, `deleteDirectory` only has access to the file system.

[1] https://github.com/Ahnfelt/firefly-boot/tree/master/compiler

> Do you have more to share, like resources about capability-safe languages, or your ongoing work?

I can share an example from the main function of the [self hosting Firefly compiler](https://github.com/Ahnfelt/firefly-boot/tree/master/compiler):

    main(system: System): Unit {

I'm working on Firefly, which will compile to JS once bootstrapping is complete (almost there).

Still working on typechecking Firefly with the help of a friend.

Working on the type inference for Firefly. I don't have a lot of free time at the moment, so it's coming along slowly.

Firefly uses object capabilities for enforcing purity:

In Firefly, this is done without macros:

Firefly - self hosting, working on the type inference.

My impression so far is (in general), Forth are practically limited to doing embedded/microcontroller development.

For us, web/mobile/desktop app devs, beside:

- 8th (https://8th-dev.com)

- Factor (https://factorcode.org)

Any suggestion which implementation we should look for?

Factor is also very much worth a look. Forth-style syntax, but with many of the ideas from CL and Smalltalk as well. In fact as a CL fan, I was very impressed by it. It's also quite "batteries included" a la Python.

Otherwise, and more seriously, I'm not completely sure variables are needed. Factor is quite usable (it's my favorite go-to language if I quickly need to script something), and mostly doesn't have them.

There's a note on the page from 2022-08-19, that a lot has been added to it. It also links to the github page[1] for the up-to-date changes.

I am a Lisp, April, APL/J/BQE, and Forth[2] aficionado. I did some file munging programs in Factor back in 2012 at my job to sort through theater attendance logs in Word to compile statistics.

[1] https://github.com/remko/waforth

[2] https://factorcode.org/

Is there any "battery-included" ANS Forth (more or less like Python/Go) which provides access to concurrency, networking, database, GUI, etc?

Not an embedded device programmer, but mostly deals with frontend apps, and occasionally backend, so those are very relevant to me.

Or perhaps use "non-traditional" Forths like 8th (https://8th-dev.com) or Factor (https://factorcode.org)?

Here's my day two solution using Factor