every_door VS Openstreetmap

StreetComplete is fun, because it's heavily gamified. An alternative would be EveryDoor [1] if you want to add specific stuff somewhere instead of having the app ask you questions.

[1] https://github.com/Zverik/every_door

Download APK now (v4 still being rolled out for app stores): https://github.com/Zverik/every_door/releases/tag/v4.0

Every Door (version 3.1.0): Mobile OpenStreetMap editor for POI & micromapping

Yes, I agree that data balkanization represents a significant hindrance for further development of openstreetmap. Fifteen or so years ago I was experimenting with importing DEM files from the US into Blender for landscaping, and finding the data was frustrating. Sometimes the data was available at a state website, other times at a federal website, sometimes also available on the website of that mapping program. Surveys within a given geopolitical constraint would be found on the website of whichever department provided the funding. I understanding that, even if ignoring legal realities, merging this data into a single "ground" (heh) truth would be a herculean task, scientifically. But there was no common database or delivery method. Some departments would link to FTP sites, other would provide arcgis downloads via an interactive web tool. I'd have to depend on user-maintained blog posts to even find the data. And the best data was always locked away behind secure portals that I couldn't get access to.

Nowadays openstreetmap is running into the same problem at the municipality level. In the US, if I understand correctly, geographic data is under copyright to whichever governing entity and not eligible for import into openstreetmap.

Take for example the excellent app Every Door (https://github.com/Zverik/every_door) with a focus on easily adding building information. In the US, openstreetmap has no address information. Either that or very little address information - but none in my area. So it'd be easy for me to add building nodes with house numbers but I won't be doing that. Not only is it a massive commitment, but the data is already available at openaddresses.io. The catch? It's "probably" license-compatible with openstreetmap. Before merging, all that data would have to be reviewed by a team of lawyers. That's not something a software developer can help with.

In existing threads here, a top complaint about OsmAnd is that lack of address information. Try planning a route without addresses, and without constantly switching to Google Maps to convert address to coordinates. Not very user friendly! Opensupermaps (https://github.com/pnoll1/osmand_map_creation) is a user-maintained merge of openstreetmaps and openaddresses.io, but it doesn't integrate with OsmAnd's data update system.

And that's how data balkanization is breaking openstreetmap, right now.

You might be forced to use Vespucci or Every Door.

Because it's relatively new, so still being worked on: https://github.com/Zverik/every_door/issues/167

Just chiming in here, a good app for POIs is Every Door.

Yeah, I have that on my roadmap.

I wouldn't compare osm-website and osm-carto at all. The commit logs are very different.

openstreetmap-website: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/commi... . Numerous commits most days.

openstreetmap-carto: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/commits . So far in 2024; one small regression fixed, one niche bit of tagging added to an existing style, some largely pointless code style tidying. That's it.

Contributing is simple:

1. When you see a trail or any other feature that doesn't appear on the map, take a picture.

2. When you get home, visit https://www.openstreetmap.org and start drawing.

The website has satellite images overlayed wirh map data, so it's easy to see what you are doing.

You can look at your pictures to remind yourself of what was missing.

If you have recorded your ride,you can also upload your GPX trace to OpenStreetMap to make it easier to trace features that don't show up clearly on satellite images.

What impressed me was that it looks like openstreetmap shows the bridge as down already.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/39.2144/-76.5279

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Way overdue. OpenStreetMap's website at openstreetmap.org is its calling card, and for the past few years the default style shown (called Carto) has all but stagnated in development. Accepted features like highway=busway (introduced three years ago) are not rendered there because the maintainers can no longer be bothered, or dislike the tag personally despite broad community backing.

What worries me for this new effort is that Paul Norman is one of the two remaining Carto sometimes-active maintainers who refuse to merge contributed PRs or even provide alternative minimal support for features like highway=busway, leading to awkward gaps on the baseline map shown on openstreetmap.org.

I would love to be surprised in a positive way about this new effort, but I'm not holding my hopes up. Thankfully OpenStreetMap can be thoroughly useful in apps like OsmAnd and OrganicMaps, and the tile-based Tracestrack Topo layer on openstreetmap.org is getting quite decent:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#layers=P

https://www.hotosm.org/tools-and-data runs software that's used for example after an earthquake. The tasking manager specifically is a reactjs app plus postgresql with plenty of open issues. HOTOSM has full-time staff, I'm not sure if the developers are full-time, but it's more organized than a volunteer project.

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/ is Ruby on Rails (easy installable with a docker setup). The maintainers have trouble even reviewing incoming PRs so an experienced person who can triage, test, review is currently needed.

If you're in the US then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_for_America might be worth having a look at.

https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ will soon annouce vetted organizations who do open source. (last year https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2023/organizati...). Project are paid, the process is long though, all summer. https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline

> 9450 S. W. Barns Rd

Portlandians: Are Barns Rd and Barnes Rd the same thing? Looks like a nice spot if so: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/45.50901/-122.77468

That building is now a SFX agency: https://hellohinge.com/ (No relation to the dating app)

Also curious if the TEKsystems employment agency next door took its name from Tektronix.

Yes, https://www.openstreetmap.org has quite inconsistent detail as it relies on people mapping stuff.

And help is welcome, anyone can join and help with mapping!

It's shown on OpenStreetMap, but not as a street: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/51.3682/1.0330