es1995 VS proposal-record-tuple

> The API matters, and readability matters.

Exactly, lodash should be part of the language. https://github.com/mlajtos/es1995

Yes, https://github.com/mlajtos/es1995

> It made the decision to extend prototypes. In hindsight, a huge mistake.

I think it was a mistake at the time, but I still believe prototypal inheritance is pretty great idea. And JS desperately needs standard library, which IMO should extend built-in prototypes, so the language would be more coherent. ES1995 [0] was a funny take on this direction, but people (mainly non-JS people) would like to seriously use it. Go figure.

[0]: https://github.com/mlajtos/es1995

(I was trying out some old school way with ES1995. I might rewrite it to TS one day.)

ES1995 agrees.

Thanks! I think we share a few aesthetic ideals :) I really like your work on L1 and New Kind of Paper, and just noticed ES1995 – if only it was true…

relevant issue, which is at the crux of this problem: https://github.com/tc39/proposal-record-tuple/issues/387

There are still so many basic things that aren't in the JS stdlib, though. A good example is Map - if you need to use a tuple of two values as a key, you're SOL because there's no way to customize key comparisons. Hopefully we'll get https://tc39.es/proposal-record-tuple/ eventually, but meanwhile languages ranging from C++ to Java to Python have had some sensible way to do this for over 20 years now.

If you’re reaching for structuredClone, what you really want is native immutable Record and Tuple syntax, and the companion “deep path properties” syntax which allows for efficient and ergonomic immutable updates:

- https://github.com/tc39/proposal-record-tuple

It will be called "record" in JavaScript which will swing the popularity back the other way I guess (currently a language proposal)

I suspect considering the strong desire to maintain consistency with JavaScript, we will eventually see something that when the Record proposal passes through tc39

I hope the Record and Tuple proposal makes it through

I mean, I'd love some real immutable/persistent data structures in JS by default, or even some Immer-like syntax sugar. Something like the record/tuple proposal would be awesome.

This will become very useful once Records and Tuples are a thing, because it allows you to store object references in a record/tuple (which by definition can only contain primitives).

Record and tuple is at stage 2

Also, js has an ongoing immutable value data types proposal.