eioio VS melange

the actual project (Readme has some code samples): https://github.com/ocaml-multicore/eio

For 5.0+ you might want to look at https://github.com/ocaml-multicore/eio for how effects can make async much more pleasant

Great post! I would love to see this extended to OCaml 5 (with eio) and Haskell

Second, effects enable a new style of concurrency libraries like eio that forgoes the need to wrap every asynchronous computation in a monad.

> This is realllly unidiomatic in real world Haskell.

Whether idiomatic or not does not matter. It proves my point:

IO won't save you, and even very mundane effects are not part of the game…

Idris is the "better Haskell" sure, but the effect tracking is still part of the uncanny valley (still IO monad based).

Koka is a toy, and Frank mostly "only a paper" (even there is some code out there).

The "Frank concept" is to some degree implemented in the Unison language, though:

https://www.unison-lang.org/learn/fundamentals/abilities/

Having a notion of co-effects (or however you please to call them) is imho actually much more important than talking about effects (as effects are in fact neither values nor types—something that all the IO kludges get wrong).

I think the first practicable approach in the mainstream about this topic will be what gets researched and developed for Scala. The main take away is that you need to look at things form the co-effects side first and foremost!

In case anybody is interested in what happens in Scala land in this regard:

https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/key/aLE9M37d...

https://docs.scala-lang.org/scala3/reference/experimental/cc...

But also the development in OCaml seems interesting:

https://github.com/ocaml-multicore/eio#design-note-capabilit...

Look mom, "effects", but without the monad headache!

To enable access to all these features, an exciting new library called Eio is being developed. It uses a new paradigm of direct-style concurrent I/O programming, without the need for monads or async/await, thus avoiding the function colour problem.

Hey HN, at Ahrefs we have been working on an online book that hopefully helps React developers get up and running with Melange, an OCaml to JavaScript compiler. You can read more about Melange here: https://melange.re/.

There are still a few chapters that we'd like to add before considering it "complete", but it might be already helpful for some folks out there, that's why we decided to publish it early.

The book uses Reason syntax to implement React components using ReasonReact components. You can read more about both in:

https://reasonml.github.io/

In my previous post on trying to use the NextJS App Router and Reason I described some of the problems and limitations of their compatibility with one another. With the release of Melange 2 I decided to see if the new features of Melange 2 could help to increase the compatibility of Reason and the NextJS App Router. I have also documented some of the things learnt after trying Melange (v1) with Astro and Remix.

So it's Reason, not ReasonML which the umbrella project's name, and Rescript is a imcompatible syntax split from the Bucklescript team (that previously transpiled Reason to JS). Bucklescript's new name is... Rescript.

But not everyone agrees with the split and work is being done on Melange to replace Bucklescript : https://github.com/melange-re/melange

Ultimately JsOfOcaml can directly transpile Ocaml to JS.

In reality, most folks that developed BuckleScript frontends with ReasonML switched to ReScript syntax and are happy with it. Some felt more friction because of their reliance on PPXes or FP-heavy libraries (like Relude) and those people tend to use the Melange fork of BuckleScript or they switched to js_of_ocaml.

There is a fork of ReScript that supports ReasonML syntax and with the goal of maintaining Ocaml compatibility: https://github.com/melange-re/melange.

There's also a fork of BuckleScript/ReScript called Melange that guts its build system so that instead of using ninja, it works with more standard tools for the ecosystem, specifically dune and esy. In doing so they managed to also finally get the compiler off of OCaml 4.06: now it can use a newer OCaml compiler and take advantage of four years worth of language and compiler improvements.

For OCaml and ReasonML your options are js_of_ocaml (mentioned here in ReasonML docs) or a fairly new fork of BuckleScript called melange. They differ in implementation and output, with JSOO taking intermediate bytecode generated by ocamlc and turning it into unreadable JS, vs Melange being a patched compiler that builds more human-readable JS.