earlyoom VS nohang

> The system is not supposed to 'lock up' when you run out of physical RAM. If it does, something is wrong. It might become slower as pages are flushed to disk but it shouldn't be terrible unless you are really constrained and thrashing. If the Kernel still can't allocate memory, you should expect the OOMKiller to start removing processes. It should not just 'lock up'. Something is wrong.

I don't why but locking up is my usual experience for Desktop Linux for many years and distros, and I remember seeing at least one article explaining why. The only real solution is calling the OOMKiller early either with a daemon or SysRq.

> It should not take minutes. Should happen really quickly once thresholds are reached and allocations are attempted. What is probably happening is that the system has not run out of memory just yet but it is very close and is busy thrashing the swap. If this is happening frequently you may need to adjust your settings (vm.overcommit, vm.admin_reserve_kbytes, etc). Or even deploy something like EarlyOOM (https://github.com/rfjakob/earlyoom). Or you might just need more RAM, honestly.

Yeah. Exactly. But as the thread says, why aren't those things set up automatically?

It's not that simple: some defaults may differ, and some features may arrive at different times (if ever). For example, earlyoom has been enabled on Workstation since F32, but the KDE Plasma spin got it one release later.

Most answers will answer your question, but you can do better and avoid the freezes in the first place. IME almost every time the system froze up and didn't come back in a few seconds it was out of memory. The obvious solution is to add memory, but you can use Early OOM to kill hungry processes if you're running out of memory instead.

It sounds like you're running out of memory though, so if your OS's OOM killer isn't working as well as it should, you can try earlyoom as an alternative.

Swap is indeed supposed to prevent this AFAIK. You can though try some tools like EarlyOOM and see if it helps : https://github.com/rfjakob/earlyoom

For desktop use, nohang does what the name says.

https://github.com/hakavlad/nohang

Personally I thought https://github.com/hakavlad/nohang worked pretty well, and it'll also notify the user if it's about to start killing things, but I haven't bothered to install it in fedora. I did tweak the systemd-oomd config to be less aggressive though.

SOLUTION: After struggling with this nightmarish unpredictable kernel panic for two weeks, I confirmed nohang is capable of stopping this problem for real.

посмотри https://github.com/hakavlad/nohang/issues/122

I'm trying to install this app called " nohang" for memory problems. https://github.com/hakavlad/nohang i wasn't sure which type zorin is based on.

Thanks. Looking into this as well. Further digging in this sub over the past couple days have brought up earlyoom as well as https://github.com/hakavlad/nohang as interesting things to pursue.

Sounds like the complaints indicated on nohang's repo. I also have low memory. nohang and zram make mine work better than macs/wins with higher memory.