dropin-minimal-css VS Water.css

Agreed, find a class-less framework to start, so that you focus on just the HTML, semantic structure first. Here's a couple of lists of such frameworks:

https://github.com/troxler/awesome-css-frameworks#class-less

https://github.com/dohliam/dropin-minimal-css

Personally, I like simple.css (https://github.com/kevquirk/simple.css)

I think picocss is the best classless CSS framework, but there a bunch of others:

https://github.com/dohliam/dropin-minimal-css

Nice work! I like that you have included support for prefers-color-scheme, which is one of the more highly-requested features for these kinds of frameworks.

I've added Lissom to the big list of minimal CSS frameworks [0] which aims to collect all of these types of projects (more or less) in one place for ease of discoverability and comparison. You can preview the CSS on some HTML5 boilerplate here [1].

[0]: https://github.com/dohliam/dropin-minimal-css

[1]: https://dohliam.github.io/dropin-minimal-css/?lissom

Here is the list of CSS that work out of the box either with pure HTML, or with minimal amount of classes. Many can be tried in a matter of seconds via unpkg.

Makes it just so easy to switch and select. Embed in your html page, select an item from the drop down and see what it does to the page, when you’re happy, remove ! Simple. Genius. Wonder why I never thought of it.

Also has a demo page [2] to try it out

[1]: https://github.com/dohliam/dropin-minimal-css

[2]: https://dohliam.github.io/dropin-minimal-css/

This is great! I've added it to this big list[0] of classless/minimal CSS frameworks (100+ frameworks) to make it easier to compare to other similar projects.

For those interested in Pico (which is already on the list), you can preview it on some boilerplate HTML here[1] or use the Javascript bookmarklet[2] to preview how it would look on any arbitrary page, which can be helpful for prototyping a new site.

[0]: https://github.com/dohliam/dropin-minimal-css

Thank you!

In the beginning, I used kognise'z water.css [1], so most of the smart decisions (background/text color, margins, line spacing I think) probably come from there. Since then it's been some amount of little adjustments. The font is by Jean François Porchez, called Le Monde Livre Classic [2].

I draft in Obsidian [3] and build the site with a couple python scripts and KaTeX.

[1] https://watercss.kognise.dev/

[2] https://typofonderie.com/fr/fonts/le-monde-livre-classic

[3] https://obsidian.md/

Thank you!

I must give credit to Kognise though, the style is simply their formidable water.css layout. It saved me a lot of time and anguish when I was about to get my blog started.

https://watercss.kognise.dev/

https://watercss.kognise.dev/ I would argue classless css is the way to go, you just include a single css file, then write your html without touching any css anymore, all related tags in html are inherently css-ed for you. a nice trade off for me sometimes.

Like the previous submitter ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30885700 April 2022 ) I found clasless.css while investigating semantic html-oriented css libraries and this one stood out to me as having a good balance. I'm not ideologically opposed to using classes, but using them for every bit of styling seems off and I'd rather see good default styles for regular semantically structured html. For example, classless.css uses the "card" class for cards which don't have a clear analog in among standard html tags: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element

Other libraries:

Water.css: https://watercss.kognise.dev/

MVP.css: https://andybrewer.github.io/mvp/

Missing.css: https://missing.style/

WaterCSS, very basic but good-looking UI in my opinion

Slap this on it and you're good: https://github.com/kognise/water.css/

- https://watercss.kognise.dev/ Small size (< 2kb)