download-jdk VS JDK

There are plenty of vendors providing builds of OpenJDK free to use in production including Oracle themselves. Oracle's build of OpenJDK that is free to use in production is found here: https://jdk.java.net.

Java can also be found in OpenJDK. Download your version, extract it (usually, the default directory is /usr/lib/jvm), and point the java program.

As someone else has mentioned, Oracle JDK still has limitations when used in commercial applications. However, there are lots of JDKs that are free to use for anything you want to do with it. jdk.java.net is where I used to get mine from. If you want an installer adoptium.net is also great (that's the JDK provided by the Eclipse foundation).

Java.com is the website for the product Java. Oracle owns java as mentioned in 1 so it makes sense they would have java-related things on their website. jdk.java.net is the domain for the Oracle OpenJDK

This, the oracle JDK from oracle.com.. Not the Oracle build of the JDK from http://jdk.java.net/ which has always been free.

https://jdk.java.net/ is probably the most standard as those are the build from openjdk itself. The eclipse temurn is a different Openjdk build by a different organization.

OpenJDK is an open-source project. The key word there is 'source'. OpenJDK does not provide binary distributions. Yes, there is one available from jdk.java.net but that is the Oracle OpenJDK JDK.

I felt out of the loop, thinking that Zero VM was some kind of new distro for OpenJDK but chasing <https://packages.debian.org/sid/openjdk-22-jre-zero#:~:text=...> to <https://sources.debian.org/src/openjdk-11/11.0.23%2B9-1/debi...> lead me to https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/tree/jdk-22-ga/src/hotspot/cp...

It seems that it's a specific CPU target for the Hotspot JIT for non-mainstream architectures (or for research purposes, as I saw mentioned once)

Completely gutted from the OpenJDK, last I checked. See here for the culprit PR: https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/18688

> Yes, they're changing one aspect of signal handler use to work around this problem. They're not stopping the use of signal handlers in general. Hotspot continues to use signals for efficiency in general. See https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/9059727df135dc90311bd476...

This whole thread is about SIGSEGV, and specifically their SIGSEGV handling. However, catching normal signals is not about efficiency.

Some of their exception handling is still odd: There is no reason for a program that receives SIGILL to ever attempt continuing. But others is fine, like catching SIGFPE to just forward an exception to the calling code.

(Sure, you could construct an argument to say that this is for efficiency if you considered the alternative to be implementing floating point in software so that all exceptions exist in user-space, but hardware floating point is the norm and such alternative would be wholly unreasonable.)

> The wonderful thing about choosing not to care about facts is having whatever opinions you want.

I appreciate the irony of you making such statement, proudly thinking that your opinion equals fact, and therefore any other opinion is not.

This discussion is nothing but subjective opinion vs. subjective opinion. Facts are (hopefully, as I can only speak for myself) inputs to both our opinions, but no opinion about "good" or "bad", "nasty" or not can ever be objective. Objective code quality does not exist.

I remember talking to Brendan about the PreserveFramePointer patch during my first months at Netflix in 2015. As of JDK 21, unfortunately it is no longer a general purpose solution for the JVM, because it prevents a fast path being taken for stack thawing for virtual threads: https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/d32ce65781c1d7815a69ceac...