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Hi, Lapdev dev here. Let me try to answer your question.

It's installed on a remote server so it provides remote environments. If you use VSCode remote, then you can "open" it through VSCode remote ssh.

The environment that Lapdev provides essentially is a container (other format is on the roadmap) with things pre-installed as defined in Devcontainer(https://containers.dev/) format.

Happy to take this one, as I am one of the cofounder of Daytona.

Daytona solves all the automation and provisioning of the dev environment, actually wrote an article here laying out exactly what we do: https://www.daytona.io/dotfiles/diy-guide-to-transform-any-m...

Daytona currently supports only the dev container (https://containers.dev/) "dev env infrastructure as code" standard, but are looking to support others such as devfile, nix and flox.

Hope this helps

The full usage of the container means that you'll do the development inside the container. All the tools for development need to be installed inside the container. One of the technologies that leverage this approach is Devcontainers.

Two standards for CDE configuration exist: devfile.yml and devcontainer.json. Both assume that the CDE is a single container and allow specification of which tools should be deployed to this container, as well as a reference to scripts that should run after the container has been created.

... is how I introduced the concept of dev containers in my last article.

How it works? Dev Containers is a specification based on Docker. This specification describes a metadata file (devcontainer.json), which defines how the project (Docker container, IDE settings, plugins, etc) is set up.

Codespaces is built to run Dev Containers, an open standard for Development Containers. The Dev Container will reference a Docker build file, which describes the software and services our app is running on. It also defines things related to our development environment, including IDE plugins, network ports, and more.

I was using Devcontainer with VS Code. In a part of the container build process, DNS lookup seemed to be failing in Debian 12. BTW, the container image was based on Debian 11. I probably tried it about 10 times in total, so I'm pretty sure it persisted, not an one time error. I noticed the build process was failing because the process failed to find some domains, with an error message like could not resolve host github.com. Some domains I noticed was github.com and ghcr.io, so it failed sometimes for one domain, and sometimes for the other.

// For format details, see https://aka.ms/devcontainer.json. For config options, see the // README at: https://github.com/devcontainers/templates/tree/main/src/typescript-node { "name": "Node.js & TypeScript", // Or use a Dockerfile or Docker Compose file. More info: https://containers.dev/guide/dockerfile "image": "mcr.microsoft.com/devcontainers/typescript-node:1-20-bullseye", // Features to add to the dev container. More info: https://containers.dev/features. // "features": {}, // Use 'forwardPorts' to make a list of ports inside the container available locally. "forwardPorts": [8081], "initializeCommand": "bash .devcontainer/initializeCommand.sh", // Use 'postCreateCommand' to run commands after the container is created. "postCreateCommand": "bash .devcontainer/postCreateCommand.sh", // Configure tool-specific properties. // "customizations": {}, // Uncomment to connect as root instead. More info: https://aka.ms/dev-containers-non-root. // "remoteUser": "root", // "containerEnv": { // }, // "remoteEnv": { // "DEV_USER_HOST": "${localEnv:USERNAME}" // }, "runArgs": ["-p=8081:8081", "--env-file", ".devcontainer/.env"] }

The main issue most people have with asdf is that it’s annoyingly slow. Not unusably so, but just enough that it’s irritating.

I identified [0] the source for much of it (sub-shells and pipes) and began a PR [1], but became bogged down with BATS testing, and then found mise / rtx, so kind of lost interest. Sorry. You can always implement these if you’d like.

[0]: https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf/issues/290#issuecomment-1383...

[1]: https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf/pull/1441

Or if you need to manage more than just node, asdf has been around for over a decade and works great. You can use a .tool-versions to change runtimes for each project you have, in addition to managing your global runtime versions

https://asdf-vm.com/

Why not just use a tool like asdf (https://asdf-vm.com/) or mise (https://mise.jdx.dev/)?

These tools have the advantage of not being multi-taskers and can manage version for all your tools. You wouldn’t need pyenv and npm and rvm and…

We’ve even started committing the .mise.toml files for projects to our repos. That way, since we work on multiple projects that may need multiple versions of the same tool, it’s handled and documented.

The purpose of a version manager is to help you navigate or install any tools for development easily. Version Manager can be one tool for each dependency (e.g. NVM, g) or One tool for all dependencies (e.g. asdf, mise).

(asdf)[https://asdf-vm.com/] fully supports Python and almost any other language. I've been using it for Ruby, Python, Elixir, and other languages for years and never looked back.

Secondly, our development environments must not drift, because then code may behave differently and a change could pass on our machine but fail in production. There are many tools for locking down environments, e.g nix, pkgx, asdf, containers, etc., and they all share the common goal of being able to lock down dependencies for an environment accurately and deterministically. And that needs to be enforced in our local workflow so we don't have to rely on CI environments for correctness. All developers must have environments that are effectively identical to what runs in CI (which itself should be representative of the production environment).

There are many ways this can be done (e.g nix, pkgx, asdf, containers, etc.), and we won’t get into which specific tools to use, because we'll instead cover the essential essence of preventing environment drift:

I've really been enjoying asdf, which is a program that allows you to install specified versions of dev utilities as well as dynamically manage them via shims and .tool-versions files.