deprecated-coalton-prototype VS mun

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I used to use CL quite a bit, but have since abandoned it for Haskell, so I'm a bit biased.

There's a number of issues with that:

- I'd be missing all the optimizations that can be performed due to purity.

- There's more to Haskell's type system than just vanilla Hindley-Milner, and the implementation of it isn't particularly trivial. https://github.com/stylewarning/coalton is the closest thing and it's still missing a large amount of the type system.

- Doing the implementation would be a significant amount of work to get it to integrate well with the language, and it would be a layer tightly glued on top instead of integrated with the language.

- A major part of Haskell is the standard library, a good chunk of the semantics of Haskell people use on a day to day basis, like monads and etc, are a part of the standard library.

This looks like something Common Lisp does better, however I have too little Clojure experience to compare. CL (and SBCL in particular) does "good enough" static type checks, it throws warning at compile time (when we compile one function with a keystroke). We can also precise our function types gradually. It isn't a HM type system (Coalton[1] could be it) but it's already great (compared to no compile-time types at all).

Oh, about interactive development: that's sure, CL shines here. Objects get updated (lazily) after a class change, we can install Quicklisp libraries without restarting the image, etc. It's very smooth.

1: https://github.com/stylewarning/coalton

Help out with Coalton.

If you like this kind of stuff, maybe you can help implement type classes in Coalton.

(there's a work-in-progress library to add a dialect of ML on top of CL: coalton)

Mun is a statically typed language that compiles to machine code with LLVM, designed to be hot-reloadable: https://mun-lang.org/.

Perhaps https://mun-lang.org? Might be a bit raw for your needs tho.

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Whenever I read about Mun, I'm always really, really intrigued… Until I remember that it currently has no string type and support for one is not currently planned. That's a bit of a shame, IMHO, because otherwise, this looks great!

There's mun [1] which is statically typed and AOT compiled.

1: https://github.com/mun-lang/mun

From the reverse-dependencies of the salsa crate, the (archived) Lark compiler used it and the Mun compiler uses it.

I notice that there are projects like mun trying to achieve a similar goal, but I'm kind of curious why they are not getting much attention from the community.

Have you heard of https://mun-lang.org/ ?

It's an embeddable scripting language with the goal of being a Rust-like language that supports hot reloading of functions AND data. To achieve the latter, it uses GC'ed memory such that memory can easily be mapped when the memory's type changes.

It's still in early development but maybe one day will serve your needs :)

In terms of pure Rust engines/frameworks it seems the overall "problem" is lack of scripting, at least from my perspective. Mun seemed extremely interesting, but since even the project itself says "don't use it" I guess it's not a real option, and considering the amount of time we spent on the GDScript/Rust integration I'm a little worried that rolling something more custom would be even less efficient.