declarative-shadow-dom VS landing-gear

Take a look at Declarative Shadow DOM: https://github.com/mfreed7/declarative-shadow-dom

Hmm, I see that Chromium shipped their implementation a year ago now; I had missed that. Other than that, there’s been no real change in the situation in the last almost two years (since Shoelace 2.0 was released, the last time I examined the situation). And there still doesn’t look to be any real interest in actually implementing it outside of Google: Mozilla are unenthusiastic though not against it <https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/#declarative-s...>, and WebKit still find fault with some aspects of the design (https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2021-February/..., https://github.com/mfreed7/declarative-shadow-dom/issues/9), though they’re content most of the earlier issues are ironed out.

So you certainly can’t rely on scriptless server-side rendering of Shadow DOM being possible—it’ll work in Chromium only, and it’ll probably be at least another year or two before other browsers even contemplate doing anything with it.

(And of course, even once Shadow DOM is serialisable, that’s a far shot from a particular frameworky thing being SSR-compatible, but I was quibbling over the Shadow DOM and impossibility aspects, so I shan’t step back on that.)

That's the future Shoelace is helping bring about and I think it's a really nice minimally, and paradoxically simple way to build webpages that have the functionality you want without the hassle of heavier frameworks, if you're lucky to find just the right component to spice up your page.

I will say that it's hard to execute cleanly on this vision and it looks like Shoelace is doing a pretty good job -- I made a small contribution to this space[0], and I have to say that getting started with my project is much less clean (as far as dogfooding goes it was functional but didn't taste great!).

Looking forward to trying out Shoelace in the future.

Also heavy mention to tailwind -- the class soup bit is annoying but it's sparked an absolute explosion of reusable templates which I think are helping people build better looking sites faster than ever before. Just like with Bootstrap, of course, we're all getting tired of seeing really similar design elements but the acceleration is probably a net good, even if it requires abusing CSS a little bit.

[0]: https://gitlab.com/mrman/landing-gear/