debux VS conjure

The `let` binding is local, so it's referring to clojure.core/+, and outside the function `add` I can use the name `add` to call it. Seems it's handling that case correct?

> I watched a video and it does seem rather complete, but [1] indicates there is no debugger?

I think debuggers tend to be used as a library across many different editors, rather than the editor/plugin providing that functionality. Personally, I don't use debuggers much as the functions I write tend to be small and evaluating small executions with the repl tends to reveal the issue quickly. Sometimes when refactoring others code I've used https://github.com/philoskim/debux to various degrees of success.

I do think cider (https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider) has stuff regarding stepping debuggers, but I'm not sure how common it is to use it. Maybe other Clojure users can fill me in :)

> . I also don't see a profiler mentioned

Yeah, as you said, the Java ecosystem basically covers that. For OSS stuff, I use VisualVM, and for professional stuff I use YourKit, both of them work well with Clojure and points out my user-space code with ease. And I've never been paid anything for actually writing/maintaining Java code, so even with that, seems I'm able to use those tools just for Clojure :)

> As an aside, by "continuations" did you mean "restarts"?

Ah yes, of course. The condition system and restarts :) Thanks!

To debug a threading macro you definitely should take a look at debux https://github.com/philoskim/debux .

Really cool! I've used https://github.com/philoskim/debux for somewhat similar(nested prns); I find the horizontal UX quite interesting.

I was going to say, in 2023 I looked around and for Clojure at least Conjure seemed like the best option.

https://github.com/Olical/conjure/wiki/Client-features

Unfortunately, in the table linked above the CL support in Conjure is so-so. I'm curious what people use for CL or if it's still slimv/vlime.

I did a write up configuring Conjure with neovim here if that's something that's appealing:

The excellent olical/conjure plugin is now lua (via fennel..) but it was originally written in clojure and you can still see the code on the legacy-jvm branch https://github.com/Olical/conjure/tree/legacy-jvm

Install conjure plugin

> You mean that you accidentally "overwrite" (declare again) a function with the same name as the one you're now declaring, but you didn't mean to?

I mean I use let to bind a variable with the same name as a function. This is idiomatic in Common Lisp, and totally breaks things in most other languages.

> This I'm also curious about, what exactly SLIME gives you that for example Conjure for neovim wouldn't already? Maybe something about continuations perhaps? That seems to be the only feature I've seen from Common Lisp (besides actually being able to compile to binaries) that I'd love to have in Clojure.

I watched a video and it does seem rather complete, but [1] indicates there is no debugger? That's a rather glaring omission. I also don't see a profiler mentioned, and SLIME with SBCL gives me a profiler (down to the assembly level if needed). I'm sure Java in general has great profiling tools, but how are the integrated into the Clojure system?

As an aside, by "continuations" did you mean "restarts"? First-class continuations are a feature of scheme, not CL. Indeed a huge boost to CL productivity is simply allowing you to handle an exception before the stack is unwound.

1: https://github.com/Olical/conjure/wiki/Client-features

Does anyone know if there is a plugin like this one https://github.com/Olical/conjure for golang? Thank you in advance!

i know you said you didn't want source of other clients but this one is pretty simple so sharing just in case. it's from a nvim plugin https://github.com/Olical/conjure/blob/master/fnl/conjure/client/common-lisp/swank.fnl