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dagger
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Nix is a better Docker image builder than Docker's image builder
The fact that I couldn't point to one page on the docs that shows the tl;dr or the what problem is this solving
https://docs.dagger.io/quickstart/562821/hello just emits "Hello, world!" which is fantastic if you're writing a programming language but less helpful if you're trying to replace a CI/CD pipeline. Then, https://docs.dagger.io/quickstart/292472/arguments doubles down on that fallacy by going whole hog into "if you need printf in your pipline, dagger's got your back". The subsequent pages have a lot of english with little concrete examples of what's being shown.
I summarized my complaint in the linked thread as "less cowsay in the examples" but to be honest there are upteen bazillion GitHub Actions out in the world, not the very least of which your GHA pipelines use some https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/v0.10.2/.github/workfl... https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/v0.10.2/.github/workfl... so demonstrate to a potential user how they'd run any such pipeline in dagger, locally, or in Jenkins, or whatever by leveraging reusable CI functions that setup go or run trivy
Related to that, I was going to say "try incorporating some of the dagger that builds dagger" but while digging up an example, it seems that dagger doesn't make use of the functions yet <https://github.com/dagger/dagger/tree/v0.10.2/ci#readme> which is made worse by the perpetual reference to them as their internal codename of Zenith. So, even if it's not invoked by CI yet, pointing to a WIP PR or branch or something to give folks who have CI/CD problems in their head something concrete to map into how GHA or GitLabCI or Jenkins or something would go a long way
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Testcontainers
> GHA has "service containers", but unfortunately the feature is too basic to address real-world use cases: it assumes a container image can just β¦ boot! β¦ and only talk to the code via the network. Real world use cases often require serialized steps between the test & the dependencies, e.g., to create or init database dirs, set up certs, etc.)
My biased recommendation is to write a custom Dagger function, and run it in your GHA workflow. https://dagger.io
If you find me on the Dagger discord, I will gladly write a code snippet summarizing what I have in mind, based on what you explained of your CI stack. We use GHA ourselves and use this pattern to great effect.
Disclaimer: I work there :)
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BuildKit in depth: Docker's build engine explained
Dagger (https://dagger.io) is a great way to use BuildKit through language SDKs. It's such a better paradigm, I cannot imagine going back.
Dagger is by the same folks that brought us Docker. This is their fresh take on solving the problem of container building and much more. BuildKit can more than build images and Dagger unlocks it for you.
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Cloud, why so difficult? π€·ββοΈ
And suddenly, it's almost painfully obvious where all the pain came from. Cloud applications today are simply a patchwork of disconnected pieces. I have a compiler for my infrastructure, another for my functions, another for my containers, another for my CI/CD pipelines. Each one takes its job super seriously, and keeps me safe and happy inside each of these machines, but my application is not running on a single machine anymore, my application is running on the cloud.
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Share your DevOps setups
That said I've been moving my CI/CD to https://dagger.io/ which has been FANTASTIC. It's code based so you can define all your pipelines in Go, Python, or Javascript and they all run on containers so I can run actions locally without any special setup. Highly recommended.
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Whatβs with DevOps engineers using `make` of all things?
You are right make is arcane. But it gets the job done. There are new exciting things happening in this area. Check out https://dagger.io.
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Shellcheck finds bugs in your shell scripts
> but I'm not convinced it's ready to replace Gitlab CI.
The purpose of Dagger it's not to replace your entire CI (Gitlab in your case). As you can see from our website (https://dagger.io/engine), it works and integrates with all the current CI providers. Where Dagger really shines is to help you and your teams move all the artisanal scripts encoded in YAML into actual code and run them in containers through a fluent SDK which can be written in your language of choice. This unlocks a lot of benefits which are detailed in our docs (https://docs.dagger.io/).
> Dagger has one very big downside IMO: It does not have native integration with Gitlab, so you end up having to use Docker-in-Docker and just running dagger as a job in your pipeline.
This is not correct. Dagger doesn't depend on Docker. We're just conveniently using Docker (and other container runtimes) as it's generally available pretty much everywhere by default as a way to bootstrap the Dagger Engine. You can read more about the Dagger architecture here: https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/main/core/docs/d7yxc-o...
As you can see from our docs (https://docs.dagger.io/759201/gitlab-google-cloud/#step-5-cr...), we're leveraging the *default* Gitlab CI `docker` service to bootstrap the engine. There's no `docker-in-docker` happening there.
> It clumps all your previously separated steps into a single step in the Gitlab pipeline.
This is also not the case, we should definitely improve our docs to reflect that. You can organize your dagger pipelines in multiple functions and call them in separate Gitlab jobs as you're currently doing. For example, you can do the following:
```.gitlab-ci.yml
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Cicada β A FOSS, Cross-Platform Version of GitHub Actions and Gitlab CI
Check out https://dagger.io/. Write declarative pipelines in code, reproducibly run anywhere.
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Show HN: Togomak β declarative pipeline orchestrator based on HCL and Terraform
Is this similar to Dagger[1] ?
[1] https://dagger.io
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Ask HN: What's the fastest platform for deploying code with CI/CD?
Hey, https://dagger.io employee here. We can help with this. I'd recommend taking a look at out Python SDK (https://docs.dagger.io/sdk/python) to build your pipelines and then leverage Dagger Cloud (https://dagger.io/blog/dagger-cloud) for fast production deployments.
windmill
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Show HN: Strada β Cloud IDE for Connecting SaaS APIs
Look very similar to the script builder portion of https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill, but not open-source, not self-hostable, and without open-source integrations (https://hub.windmill.dev/)
disclaimer: I'm founder of ^
- Ask HN: Is There a Zapier for APIs?
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Postgres as Queue
If you need a job queue on Postgres, https://windmill.dev provide an all-integrated developer platform with a Pg queue at its core that support jobs defined in python/typescript/sql
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A list of SaaS, PaaS and IaaS offerings that have free tiers of interest to devops and infradev
windmill.dev - Windmill is an open-source developer platform to quickly build production-grade multi-step automation and internal apps from minimal Python and Typescript scripts. As a free user, you can create and be a member of at most three non-premium workspaces.
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Airplane acquired by Airtable and is shutting down
For an alternative to airplane.dev, you can checkout Windmill.
https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill
"Open-source developer infrastructure for internal tools (APIs, background jobs, workflows and UIs). Self-hostable alternative to Airplane, Pipedream, Superblocks and a simplified Temporal with autogenerated UIsm and custom UIs to trigger workflows and scripts as internal apps.
Scripts are turned into sharable UIs automatically, and can be composed together into flows or used into richer apps built with low-code. Supported script languages supported are: Python, TypeScript, Go, Bash, SQL, and GraphQL. "
If you search HN, you'll find the creator of Windmill comment on comparisons to airplane.dev:
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
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Pipe Dreams: The life and times of Yahoo Pipes
https://windmill.dev is a self-hostable OSS alternative to pipedream
(disclaimer: I'm founder)
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Looking for an e-commerce multivendor platform for 10million+ products
I'm genuinely curious what server-side stuff on BC you are referring to. That may have been something added after our assessment. The way I'd generally approach something like that for any of the platforms would be using an external low/no code solution to process webhook data. But it would depend heavily on the use case. For a more developer friendly option I've been really impressed by windmill.dev. We use a mix of n8n and windmill for various needs.
- Deno Cron
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Show HN: Windmill β fastest open-source workflow engine β the how
Yes it goes in that direction, however note that you can already do this in a not too hard way.
Our openflow spec is both open-source and has a full openapi definition: https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill/blob/main/openflow...
you can use that to generate client sdks in any languages and build your own dag with it. That's what one of our customer did building a reactflow to openflow library: https://github.com/Devessier/reactflow-to-windmill
It's not as good as the decorator way but we move fast and if you still have interest for it we could prioritize it (and ask for feedbacks :))
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GitHub Actions Are a Problem
We have built an open-source generic workflow engine to run arbitrary scripts (https://windmill.dev) with a vscode extension to build the yaml using a low-code builder and each individual script in their dedicated python/ts files so you get your full editor assistants https://youtu.be/aSOF6AzyDr8?t=116
One of the area we are expanding next is a github app so you get exactly the same UX as github actions but running windmill workflows on your windmill workers.
What are some alternatives?
earthly - Super simple build framework with fast, repeatable builds and an instantly familiar syntax β like Dockerfile and Makefile had a baby.
automatisch - The open source Zapier alternative. Build workflow automation without spending time and money.
pipeline - A cloud-native Pipeline resource.
plasmic - Visual builder for React. Build apps, websites, and content. Integrate with your codebase.
gitlab-ci-local - Tired of pushing to test your .gitlab-ci.yml?
budibase - Budibase is an open-source low code platform that helps you build internal tools in minutes π
act - Run your GitHub Actions locally π
supabase - The open source Firebase alternative.
aws-cdk - The AWS Cloud Development Kit is a framework for defining cloud infrastructure in code
pg_jsonschema - PostgreSQL extension providing JSON Schema validation
dagster - An orchestration platform for the development, production, and observation of data assets.
llvm-project - The LLVM Project is a collection of modular and reusable compiler and toolchain technologies.