composePPT VS molecule

Jetpack Compose (Google's alternative on Android, that also works pretty much anywhere you can run a JVM and others like the web [1], terminals[2], powerpoints[3], as well as pretty much anywhere you have an imperative API that you want to transform into a functional model[4]) is infinitely more polished and has better tools than anything Apple has put out in all of SwiftUI's existence. Apple is bringing this upon themselves with their "major updates" concept for SwiftUI coming every other year, where components aren't even available on old versions of iOS. A UI toolkit is a library like any other, version it like a library and match patch releases.

[1] https://compose-web.ui.pages.jetbrains.team/

[2] https://github.com/JakeWharton/mosaic

[3] https://github.com/fgiris/composePPT

[4] https://github.com/googlemaps/android-maps-compose

Today in "HN never used a reactive framework that is not React and is offended when UI is not written with Dear ImGui".

This is literally the exact style of SwiftUI and Jetpack Compose (down to the author having used the term fragment, I sure hope this isn't leftover trauma from being an Android developer), except written in Rust (hence having to deal with lifetimes in the middle, default parameters, lambdas being quite verbose and needing to move things, etc).

Not blocking the UI thread is mandatory if you ever want to make any kind of complex UI. If you're a web dev, well you only have one thread anyways, good luck, if you're on any other platform, interactions _cannot_ ever block the UI (unless you, yourself, update the UI to say it is blocked). Making this async is a good thing.

Stack traces are a problem, but then again they've been a problem in any remotely capable UI toolkit.

With ReactiveCell, it looks surprisingly similar to what Compose does, where modifying a State causes recomposition of everything observing it. Which means that it might be powerful enough one day to do the same things as Molecule (https://github.com/cashapp/molecule), or ComposePPT (https://github.com/fgiris/composePPT), where everything is a potential target and it interops really well with existing toolkits.

Meanwhile, https://github.com/cashapp/molecule and https://github.com/slackhq/circuit/blob/cfcb6e6a28c53c0715d961917a9a5a9ddc07d5f3/docs/presenter.md?plain=1#L18

Reddit uses Molecule, not Circuit.

You could look at Compose, how the Compose compiler works internally, and perhaps build something unique / non-ui or investigate some other deep aspect of Compose compiler.

Thanks for the links, I already opened a bug issue : https://github.com/cashapp/molecule/issues/136

Today in "HN never used a reactive framework that is not React and is offended when UI is not written with Dear ImGui".

This is literally the exact style of SwiftUI and Jetpack Compose (down to the author having used the term fragment, I sure hope this isn't leftover trauma from being an Android developer), except written in Rust (hence having to deal with lifetimes in the middle, default parameters, lambdas being quite verbose and needing to move things, etc).

Not blocking the UI thread is mandatory if you ever want to make any kind of complex UI. If you're a web dev, well you only have one thread anyways, good luck, if you're on any other platform, interactions _cannot_ ever block the UI (unless you, yourself, update the UI to say it is blocked). Making this async is a good thing.

Stack traces are a problem, but then again they've been a problem in any remotely capable UI toolkit.

With ReactiveCell, it looks surprisingly similar to what Compose does, where modifying a State causes recomposition of everything observing it. Which means that it might be powerful enough one day to do the same things as Molecule (https://github.com/cashapp/molecule), or ComposePPT (https://github.com/fgiris/composePPT), where everything is a potential target and it interops really well with existing toolkits.

Hmm, I see 0.4.0 https://github.com/cashapp/molecule/releases/tag/0.4.0

Here's an example: https://github.com/cashapp/molecule

Recently, Cash App introduced Molecule and suggested that Jetpack Compose can help solve the problem of managing UI state.