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community-protocols
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What We Need Instead of "Web Components"
> except that "reactivity" does not meet the bar of developers collectively having landed on a solution to a common problem
Now that everyone seems to be in love with signals, there is work going on in the web components community group to prepare a spec for a signal (or observable, not sure what they are trying to call it) primitive [0]. It seems that they are getting ready to bring it to TC39 as a proposal.
(In the meantime, the Observable primitive from rxjs been given a go-ahead for browser implementation. There is a proposal ready [1], and I think I heard that it may already be in Chrome behind a flag [2].
So yeah; it's gonna be fun. Especially if both groups call their primitive Observable :-)
0 - https://github.com/webcomponents-cg/community-protocols/issu...
1 - https://github.com/WICG/observable
2 - https://nitter.net/BenLesh/status/1737174784406933599
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Show HN: Hyphen – custom element base class for good ergonomics
The custom element spec definitely only deals with the mechanics of when are where to run your component's lifecycle code - it says nothing about data. So your choices are basically property accessors, which are interoperable, but require prop-drilling for global-ish data, or something proprietary like a state management library.
The Web Components Community Group (WCCG) is offering something of a third way with the community protocols: https://github.com/webcomponents-cg/community-protocols
The Context protocol provides tree-scoped ambient data in an interoperable way. It's implemented by Lit and FAST (I believe). It doesn't replace a data store, but it's often used to provide data stores to components, and at least reduce some coupling.
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Events are the shit
Did you know events can also carry promises? A great showcase of this pattern is the Pending Task Protocol by the Web Components Community Group. Now, "Pending Task Protocol" sounds very fancy, but really, it's just an event that carries a promise.
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Nx Console gets Lit
If you’re coming from the Angular world, you probably appreciate the great dependency injection (DI) mechanism they have. You can centrally define some services and reuse them across your app, without thinking about passing on props from component to component - the DI system takes care of it. Lit provides something similar via the [@lit-labs/context](https://lit.dev/docs/data/context/) package. It’s based on the Context Community Protocol and similar to React’s context API.
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Back to the Front-end: Exploring the Future of the Umbraco UI (Part 9 - Context API)
Fundamentally it is an event based mechanism to access state or "context" from ancestores of a component node. Based on the Web Components Context Protocol RFC which in turn is inspired by React's Context Api, the key purpose is to solve the problem of prop drilling.
- 🕎 8 Days of Web Components Tips
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JavaScript vs JavaScript: Round 2. Fight!
The conversation led to the creation of https://github.com/webcomponents-cg/community-protocols. So there is some effort to standardize at least on convention for these higher-order considerations, but working through this and how opinionated it is made me recognize even more that this has a lot of similarities to a different group building a different framework. Tricky balance.
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We Use Web Components at GitHub
I’m pretty actively following a lot of the web components community so I thought I would jump in here with some hopefully helpful information. Depending on what you mean by SEO it’s worth noting that for a while now Google and I believe Bing and a few others haven’t had any kind of requirement to pre-render content. You can just serve standard web components or any kind of SPA style front end and it will get indexed just fine, no penalties and no real issues unless you’re doing something particularly strange.
However, one of the more exciting projects in the web components space (lit.dev) now also supports proper SSR as well which is a very new thing in the world of web components. They are trying to build it in such a way that any other library can take advantage of through a common interface.
In fact there are some kind of early stage talks happening over here https://github.com/webcomponents/community-protocols where a bunch of companies like Google, Adobe, ING and others are trying to develop some open protocols on a whole bunch of topics to improve interoperability between various libraries so that no one has to buy in 100% to any one setup.
vanilla-todo
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What We Need Instead of "Web Components"
Thanks for this, gives my intuition some words to back it up!
I find especially compelling how the author separates concrete problems like reconciliation (hard to argue against) from the abstract principle of "everything should be a component" (can be argued more easily IMO).
Shamelessly plugging https://github.com/morris/vanilla-todo here; in this try-hard-to-stay-vanilla case study there are similar conclusions: Reconciliation is hard, CSS global namespace is problematic, etc. - I also did not use web components, but could not explain/justify that decision well (until now!).
- Vanilla-todo: A case study on viable techniques for vanilla web development
- GitHub - morris/vanilla-todo: A case study on viable techniques for vanilla web development.
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Show HN: 7GUIs in Vanilla HTML, CSS, JavaScript
A few years back I stumbled into something a bit more complex, still done in pure js, just for the hell of it: https://github.com/morris/vanilla-todo
And then wrote my own version, with code a lot closer to modern react, with undo/redo and other niceties - https://github.com/ivank/vanilla-teuxdeux
And what I leaned is that is astonishingly easy to write code that would be understandable to people coming from the redux crowd. Maybe that’s because redux is just such a simple concept in and off itself - a glorified switch on a big object. And it’s also quite easy to hack a simple version of vdom to make it all work.
What’s missing from all those vanilla js efforts though turned out to be testability. There is a ton of code in the modern js world just to allow you to mock/test your components, and thats for me the real tragedy of vanilla js.
I have no idea why W3C crowd have not invested into standardizing js tests in all these years…
What are some alternatives?
web3-sign-msg - web3-sign-msg is a modern web component built with ficusjs to sign messages with your eth private key in Metamask
7guis-React-TypeScript-MobX - Implementation of 7GUIs with React, TypeScript and MobX
vscode-webview-ui-toolkit - A component library for building webview-based extensions in Visual Studio Code.
vanilla-teuxdeux - A case study to implement modern js app with vanilla web technologies
soci-frontend - [Moved to: https://github.com/jjcm/nonio-frontend]
mvc_for_the_web - Example programs explaining the techniques of Model-View-Controller implemented as web applications.
React - The library for web and native user interfaces.
petite-vue - 6kb subset of Vue optimized for progressive enhancement
services-as-dom-elements
Dragula - :ok_hand: Drag and drop so simple it hurts
nx-console - Nx Console is the user interface for Nx & Lerna.
SlickGrid - A lightning fast JavaScript grid/spreadsheet