combobulate VS LunarVim

Eh, I've been looking and haven't found anything for other editors that actually tries to use TreeSitter for anything beyond highlighting. The Emacs structural editing packages are still very WIP but at least they exist.

(And also some have been based on the out of tree implementation that's been around for a while now)

Example: https://github.com/mickeynp/combobulate

Looking at https://github.com/mickeynp/combobulate/blob/master/combobulate-python.el, it at the very least delegates to python-indent-calculate-levels, so the logic is mixed.

I went from an old config rich setups from before lsp's to lsp-mode ones etc... Right now I would say that eglot + pylsp gives you the best experience, you can use pyenv and pyvenv mode to manage your virtual environments. Now that treesitter is also being used you can try out https://github.com/mickeynp/combobulate

I think the following packages would fit your wishlist, as it is very similar to mine. As mentioned in the replies, there is (https://github.com/magnars/expand-region.el) and (https://github.com/mickeynp/combobulate). I regularly use (https://github.com/Fuco1/smartparens).

re syntactic text objects: https://github.com/mickeynp/combobulate

I haven't used it, but based on the description, it looks like combobulate would be an example of this:

from github README.rst "Emacs package that provides a standardized framework for manipulating and navigating your source code using tree sitter's concrete syntax tree " -> https://github.com/mickeynp/combobulate

https://www.spacemacs.org/ with https://github.com/emacs-tree-sitter/elisp-tree-sitter then write a iterator/loop query for language(s) editing per https://tree-sitter.github.io/tree-sitter/syntax-highlightin...

tad less installation heavy (sorta) but also makes use of tree-sitter syntax queries : https://www.lunarvim.org (neovim with treesitter syntax)

blockman usage examples: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5539gDeAdWqeXcczWuhnBA

Alternative examples / takes (per user interface):

### embedding a block of source code in a document:

  ** carrotsearch.gethub.io/apidocs/code-blocks

I don't know what this fork brings to table, but you could try tree-sitter today with your vanilla Emacs using a package[1] that works via dynamic module.

Personally I am more interested in getting structural selection and navigation reliably working for any language. There is also a package named combobulate[2] to help with that.

[1] https://emacs-tree-sitter.github.io/

[2] https://github.com/mickeynp/combobulate

TIL https://github.com/mickeynp/combobulate Thank you, @snafuchs !

LunarVim

I would suggest to start getting into vim by first trying out popular vim keybinding plugins available on your favorite code editor and get used to those first. Then, if you want to dive deeper into the power of Neovim, try out popular configs like LazyVim, LunarVim, NvChad... Taking Neovim from a mere text editor to a full-featured IDE with features like intellisense, debugging, testing, etc... on your own takes quite a lot of work and configuration.

I used Helix for a while due to its support for LSP out-of-the-box, which my Vim config at the time couldn't live up to. I switched back to NeoVim after finding LunarVim[1] which had everything I was trying to get setup in my own config.

[1] https://www.lunarvim.org/

I'll admit I didn't look into it, but Helix sounds like something like LunarVim (https://www.lunarvim.org/)

Personally I much prefer that the editor NOT ship with something like that by default, especially when it's so easy to set up. I have several different vim config I use, including a pretty bare-bones one for headless systems, and I much prefer the ability to customize something very specifically.

Build tools that can compose together, rather than a single do-it-all tool. That is the power of the low level editors vs IDE's.

I can't comment on any implementation details, but at least with LunarVim (which I use for daily coding), a slowdown when interacting with LSP is very noticeable. Some others have attested to this on a GitHub issue.

I'm not doubting your experiences with the lack of a slowdown, but there is truth that others do experience it. That might be more of a problem with LunarVim itself rather than Vim, but how likely am I (as someone who would like to avoid what he calls "config hell") or other newcomers to avoid whatever pitfalls there are, if a distribution designed for ease of use by people who know better fall into them?

https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim/discussions/3359

Anyways, although i have not used them, LazyVim and LunarVim comes highly recommended. You can try these and see what suits you .