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cogent
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Let's collect relatively new research programming languages in this thread
Cogent, late 2010s, a language with linear types for verification. The idea is that you write functional-looking code that is easy to verify using the functional semantics, but with an efficient compilation strategy enabled by linear types to get realistic system programs.
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Thoughts on the Rascal meta-programming language
Of course. Here was the first incarnation: https://github.com/amw-zero/sligh. It has a decent overview of the idea in the readme. To sum it up here, the idea is: have a language built around model-driven development and model-based testing, where you write a simple model of an application, and the implementation and model-based tests are compiled for you. I wrote about the overall model-based testing strategy here. This idea comes from self-certifying compilers that produce proofs of their correctness such as Cogent, but we drop the formality requirement and use property-based testing to compare the implementation and model.
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Are there any ML style languages with no runtime?
That made me think of this project Cogent. This is almost certainly not what you’re looking for, because it’s aimed at formal verification. But, it does have some interesting properties, like manual memory management through uniqueness types. It doesn’t even support recursion though so, probably not so good as a general purpose PL.
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I'm a freelancer and I've got a customer who is asking for USB driver for a new device. They want it written in c++ and I said I'd only consider creating and supporting it if it was written in Rust. 🤷♂️
https://github.com/NICTA/cogent is for auto generating isabelle theorems + C code.
ponyc
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The problem with general purpose programming languages
For example, the actor's model is not used by a lot of languages, Pony (https://www.ponylang.io/) and Elixir are the only ones that I know, but they address the concurrency problem quite well, while it's a pain to deal with in other languages at large scale.
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Found a language in development called Vale which claims to be the safest AOT compiled language in the World (Claims to beSafer than Rust)
And that last point is critical. If the language flatly can't represent some concepts it uses, they have to be implemented somewhere else. I had a similar discussion with a proponent for Pony once- the language itself is 100% safe, and fully dependent on C for its runtime and data structures. One of Rust's core strengths is being able to express unsafe concepts, meaning the unsafe code can expose a safe interface that accurately describes its requirements rather than an opaque C ABI. Vale doesn't seem to do that.
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The Rust I wanted had no future
"Exterior iteration. Iteration used to be by stack / non-escaping coroutines, which we also called "interior" iteration, as opposed to "exterior" iteration by pointer-like things that live in variables you advance. Such coroutines are now finally supported by LLVM (they weren't at the time) and are actually a fairly old and reliable mechanism for a linking-friendly, not-having-to-inline-tons-of-library-code abstraction for iteration. They're in, like, BLISS and Modula-2 and such. Really normal thing to have, early Rust had them, and they got ripped out for a bunch of reasons that, again, mostly just form "an argument I lost" rather than anything I disagree with today. I wish Rust still had them. Maybe someday it will!"
I remember that one. The change was shortly after I started fooling with Rust and was major. Major as in it broke all the code that I'd written to that point.
"Async/await. I wanted a standard green-thread runtime with growable stacks -- essentially just "coroutines that escape, when you need them too"."
I remember that one, too; it was one of the things that drew me to the language---I was imagining something more like Pony (https://www.ponylang.io/).
"The Rust I Wanted probably had no future, or at least not one anywhere near as good as The Rust We Got."
Almost certainly true. But The Rust We Got is A Better C++, which was never appealing to me because I never liked C++ anyway.
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How long until Rust becomes mandatory, and use of any other language opens the developer up to Reckless Endangerment charges
Pony or bust.
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Universal parameter passing semantics
If you have a value in mutable storage, and want to treat it as an immutable parameter without copying it first, you will need to provide some way to guarantee that it won't be mutated while being treated as immutable! There doesn't seem to be a definitive best way to do that (although the likes of Pony make a try at it).
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Virtual Threads Arrive in JDK 21, Ushering a New Era of Concurrency
The love child of Erlang and Rust exists already: Pony.
https://www.ponylang.io
It really is the best of both languages... unfortunately, the main supporter of Pony seems to have stopped using it in favour of Rust though :D.
But if that's really what you want, Pony is your language. It definitely deserves more love.
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Why Turborepo is migrating from Go to Rust – Vercel
You can actually try to have a magic language which "does not ignore decades of PL research" but you are likely to get either something broken or a project that is likely not going to release in our lifetime.
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Show HN: Ractor – a Rust-based actor framework with clusters and supervisors
Never a bad time to plug Pony lang[1] - a safety-oriented actor-model language. In addition to the numerous safety guarantees, you also get a beautiful syntax and automatic memory management. Really a great language that often gets overshadowed by Rust's hype-turfing.
[1]: https://www.ponylang.io/
What are some alternatives?
py4j - Py4J enables Python programs to dynamically access arbitrary Java objects
gleam - ⭐️ A friendly language for building type-safe, scalable systems!
edsl - Example of embedding TypeScript as an EDSL inside of another language
Halide - a language for fast, portable data-parallel computation
programming-language-subreddits-and-their-choice-of-words - How do the different communities talk?
prolog-to-minizinc - A Prolog-to-MiniZinc translator
karamel - KaRaMeL is a tool for extracting low-level F* programs to readable C code
Phoenix - wxPython's Project Phoenix. A new implementation of wxPython, better, stronger, faster than he was before.
datafun - Research on integrating datalog & lambda calculus via monotonicity types
tab-rs - The intuitive, config-driven terminal multiplexer designed for software & systems engineers
jasmin - Language for high-assurance and high-speed cryptography
Nim - Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula. Its design focuses on efficiency, expressiveness, and elegance (in that order of priority).