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clj-chrome-devtools
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Clojure – Differences with Other Lisps
For Clojure on the JVM I've seen etaoin (https://github.com/igrishaev/etaoin) and there's clj-chrome-devtools (https://github.com/tatut/clj-chrome-devtools). I would ask on Clojureverse or the Clojure Slack/Zulip for opinions.
For ClojureScript I guess there's lots of options since you can access the Javascript ecosystem.
One of the benefits of being hosted is that we can always fall back on the host language's options.
rich4clojure
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How did you transition from C-style language to clojure ? I am having a hard time letting go of how I've been programming all my life.
The old 4Clojure site is not available any longer. I can (in a highly biased way) recommend using Rich4CLojure in the comfort of your favorite editor.
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Clojure – Differences with Other Lisps
I've been messing with Clojure/ClojureScript for a few years having previously had zero Lisp experience. Overall, I think Clojure does a good job of being both practical and lispy. It's a language that is for building real things.
I've been focusing on ClojureScript (https://clojurescript.org/) as you get the benefit of interoperating with the Javascript ecosystem. The fact that there's a strong community around both Javascript hosted and Java hosted gives a wealth of library options.
Overall, the tooling has been getting a lot closer to the sort of experience that contemporary developers expect. The Calva plugins integration with Visual Studio (https://calva.io/) makes it easy to get started - you can even run it online with gitpod (https://github.com/PEZ/rich4clojure).
That just leaves learning the language - the slight changes in syntax (brackets for different data types) definitely help early on, and for the most part Clojure discourages people going down the path of macros which means reading other peoples code is reasonably accessible. The main struggle is that it's a language used by a lot of advanced or full-time developers, so documentation is pretty dense and it can take a real commitment to understand the detail.
It may not be 'correct' enough if you're coming from other Lisps, but coming the other way from C/Python etc I've found it an accessible and practical option.
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Long-term funding update
Rich 4Clojure (editor/IDE based 4Clojure with a zero-install option)
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Guide: Get Started with Clojure in a full REPL-driven editor without installing anything
(And arlier this week I did an adaption of Rich 4Clojure, adding a zero-install option there as well.)
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Eclipse plugin CounterClockWise still an option?
A cheap (in terms of effort and impact on your computer) way to see how you like Calva is to try the Gitpod option of Rich 4Clojure: https://github.com/PEZ/rich4clojure
- Zero-install, yet full editor connected 4Clojure
What are some alternatives?
cloture - Clojure in Common Lisp
talk-transcripts - Transcripts of Clojure-related talks
etaoin - Pure Clojure Webdriver protocol implementation
sci - Configurable Clojure/Script interpreter suitable for scripting and Clojure DSLs
joker - Small Clojure interpreter, linter and formatter.
lumo - Fast, cross-platform, standalone ClojureScript environment
hy - A dialect of Lisp that's embedded in Python
ferret - Ferret is a free software lisp implementation for real time embedded control systems.
4ever-clojure - Pure cljs version of 4clojure, meant to run forever!
janet - A dynamic language and bytecode vm