client-go VS go

The Kubernetes clients (e.g., Go client) support developers with both methods to connect to a cluster, as we can see in the following examples.

My suggestion would be to start looking at things like https://github.com/kubernetes/client-go first in order to get a feel for the API and how data plane k8s components interact with the apiserver (it's the same thing that kubelet uses). Then move on to trying to build your own k8s operator to get a feel for how people expand and customize k8s functionality without having to modify upstream at all. IMO the codebase itself is too messy and in constant flux to make too much sense of it unless you are planning to contribute to upstream.

GitHub related issue https://github.com/kubernetes/client-go/issues/735

CUE is cool and all but as soon as I start writing real code structures I want to reach for client-go.

I'm... really not sure I agree with this, from a philosophical point of view. It feels like this is making "eh, we'll just upgrade our Go version next quarter" too easy; ultimately some responsibility toward updating your application's Go version to work with what new dependencies require should fall on Us, the application developers. Sure, we're bad at it. Everyone's lived through running years-old versions of some toolchain. But I think this just makes the problem worse, not better.

Its compounded by the problem that, when you're setting up a new library, the `go` directive in the mod file defaults to your current toolchain; most likely a very current one. It would take a not-insignificant effort on the library author's part to change that to assert the true-minimum version of Go required, based on libraries and language features and such. That's an effort most devs won't take on.

I'd also guess that many developers, up-to this point if not indefinitely because education is hard, interpreted that `go` directive to mean more-of "the version of go this was built with"; not necessarily "the version of go minimally required". There are really major libraries (kubernetes/client-go [1]) which assert a minimum go version of 1.20; the latest version (see, for comparison, the aws-sdk, which specifies a more reasonable go1.11 [2]). I haven't, you know, fully audited these libraries, but 1.20 wasn't exactly a major release with huge language and library changes; do they really need 1.20? If devs haven't traditionally operated in this world where keeping this value super-current results in actually significant downstream costs in network bandwidth (go1.20 is 100mb!) and CI runtime, do we have confidence that the community will adapt? There's millions of Go packages out there.

Or, will a future version of Go patch a security update, not backport it more than one version or so, and libraries have to specify the newest `go` directive version, because manifest security scanning and policy and whatever? Like, yeah, I get the rosy worldview of "your minimum version encodes required language and library features", but its not obvious to me that this is how this field is, or even will be, used.

Just a LOT of tertiary costs to this change which I hope the team has thought through.

[1] https://github.com/kubernetes/client-go/blob/master/go.mod#L...

[2] https://github.com/aws/aws-sdk-go/blob/main/go.mod

I looked at dynamic package, but it seems like it needs GroupVersionResource, which is different for, say, Service objects and Deployment objects. Also when I pass schema.GroupVersionResource{Group: "apps", Version: "v1"} it doesn't find anything, when I pass schema.GroupVersionResource{Version: "v1"} it finds only namespace object and also doesn't looks for labels, though I provided label options:

I'm writing a script that uses the k8s.io/client-go library (godocs here) to manipulate Deployments. In particular, I want to add a label selector to every Deployment in my cluster. Deployment label selectors are immutable. So my approach is to:

Actually, kubebuilder is not using the standard Go libraries, but one using reflection to dynamically resolve the client based on the type you hand it (which is arguably better). The "official" client is k8s.io/client-go.

Then on June 18th, 2022, I got a chance to meet our mentors and the other mentee of OpenELB (the mentee and the mentors of OpenFunction were also there). There I was informed about how to start working on the project, so I started learning about using the Kubernetes API client. After experimenting with the official Kubernetes Client, I learned that it's not very feasible to use that for dealing with CRDs (custom resource definitions), so I explored the controller-runtime client as per what I found in many sources, and found that it was a great fit for the backend of our project. During that time, I also built a simple project to see if everything would work as expected or not (as this was the first time I dealt with a Kubernetes client, I considered that debugging would be easier in a smaller project).

A Discussion about including this package in Go as encoding/json/v2 has been started on the Go Github project on 2023-10-05. Please provide your feedback there.

I like the Principles section. Very measured and practical approach to releasing new stdlib packages. https://go.dev/blog/randv2#principles

The end of the post they mention that an encoding/json/v2 package is in the works: https://github.com/golang/go/discussions/63397

There used to be the GO FIPS branch :

https://github.com/golang/go/tree/dev.boringcrypto/misc/bori...

But it looks dead.

And it looks like https://github.com/golang-fips/go as well.

I'm not sure what exactly you mean by acknowledgement, but here are some counterexamples:

- A proposal for sum types by a Go team member: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/57644

- The community proposal with some comments from the Go team: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/19412

Here are some excerpts from the latest Go survey [1]:

- "The top responses in the closed-form were learning how to write Go effectively (15%) and the verbosity of error handling (13%)."

- "The most common response mentioned Go’s type system, and often asked specifically for enums, option types, or sum types in Go."

I think the problem is not the lack of will on the part of the Go team, but rather that these issues are not easy to fix in a way that fits the language and doesn't cause too many issues with backwards compatibility.

[1]: https://go.dev/blog/survey2024-h1-results

Now, I’m not going to use C++ again; I left that chapter years ago, and it’s not going to happen. C++ isn’t memory safe and easy to use and would require extended time for developers to adapt. Rust is the new kid on the block, but I’ve heard mixed opinions about its developer experience, and there aren’t many libraries around it yet. LLRD is too new for my taste, but **Go** caught my attention.

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