nio VS procs

Compare nio vs procs and see what are their differences.

nio

Low Overhead Numerical/Native IO library & tools (by c-blake)

procs

Unix process&system query&format lib&multi-command CLI in Nim (by c-blake)
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nio

Posts with mentions or reviews of nio. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-08-21.
  • GNU Parallel, where have you been all my life?
    19 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 21 Aug 2023
    Sure. No problem.

    Even Windows has popen these days. There are some tiny popenr/popenw wrappers in https://github.com/c-blake/cligen/blob/master/cligen/osUt.ni...

    Depending upon how balanced work is on either side of the pipe, you usually can even get parallel speed-up on multicore with almost no work. For example, there is no need to use quote-escaped CSV parsing libraries when you just read from a popen()d translator program producing an easier format: https://github.com/c-blake/nio/blob/main/utils/c2tsv.nim

  • Offensive Nim
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Jan 2023
    I think it's a pretty nice prog.lang. You may be very happy. Though nothing is perfect, there is much to recommend it. By now I've written over 150 command-line tools with https://github.com/c-blake/cligen . A few are at https://github.com/c-blake/bu or https://github.com/c-blake/nio (screw 1970s COBOL-esque SQL) or in their own repos.

    If it helps, I like to use the "mob branch" [0] of TinyCC/tcc [1] for really fast builds in debugging mode, but this may only work if you toss `@if tcc: mm:markAndSweep @end` or similar in your nim.cfg. Then I have a little `@if r: ...` so I can say `nim c -d:r foo` for a release build with gcc/whatever.

    [0] https://repo.or.cz/w/tinycc.git

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_C_Compiler

  • Modernizing AWK, a 45-year old language, by adding CSV support
    11 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 May 2022
    When you have "format wars", the best idea is usually to have a converter program change to the easiest to work with format - unless this incurs a massive expansion in space as per some image/video formats.

    With CSV-like data, bulk conversion from quoted-escaped RFC4180 CSV to a simpler-to-parse format is the best plan for several reasons. First, it may "catch on", help Microsoft/R/whoever embrace the format and in doing so squash many bugs written by "data analyst/scientist coders". Second, in a shell a|b run programs a & b in parallel on multi-core and allow things like csv2x|head -n10000|b. Third, bulk conversion to a random access file where literal delimiters cannot occur as non-delimiters allows trivial file segmentation to be nCores times faster (under often satisfied assumptions). There are some D tools for this in https://github.com/eBay/tsv-utils and a much smaller stand-alone Nim tool https://github.com/c-blake/nio/blob/main/utils/c2tsv.nim . Optional quoting was always going to be a PITA due to its non-locality. What if there is no quote anywhere? Fourth, by using a program as the unit of modularity in this case, you make things programming language agnostic. Someone could go to town and write a pure SIMD/AVX512 converter in assembly even and solve the problem "once and for all" on a given CPU. The problem is actually just simple enough that this smells possible.

    I am unaware of any "document" that "standardizes" this escaped/lossless TSV format. { Maybe call it "DSV" for delimiter separated values where "delimiters actually separate"? } Someone want to write an RFC or point to one? It can be just as "general/lossless" (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31352170).

    Of course, if you are going to do a lot of data processing against some data, it is even better to parse all the way to down to binary so that you never have to parse again (Well, unless you call CPUs loading registers "parsing") which is what database systems have been doing since the 1960s.

  • Unix command line conventions over time
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 May 2022
    With https://github.com/c-blake/nio/blob/main/utils/catz.nim you can get similar format agnostic decoding/decompression not just in tar but in any pipeline context (based on magic numbers, not filename extensions and even doing the copy loop needed for unseekable inputs to replace the early read).
  • Show HN: Prig – like Awk, but uses Go for “scripting”
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Mar 2022
    Part of the value prop is that you can directly author/access any library code in your native prog.lang in your query as naturally as native imports and routine calls. Awk is pretty established and for trivial one-liners you may not need any libs, but there are a lot more Go/Python/etc. libs than awk libs, AFAICT.

    Beyond lib existence there is lib API understanding. There is not only language learning to be saved, but also lib ecosystem learning. I'm sure 'perl -na' folks could rattle off dozens of examples with CPAN package PDQ. I know many people who would say learning the ecosystem is what takes the most time...

    There is also little barrier to using the same approach to also "compile" your data as well as the code. This is basically how 'nio qry' works as a kind of open architecture ghetto DB. [1] I mean, yeah, Big Iron, corporate database XYZ probably also has some ugly, non-portable extension language with 1970s prog.lang aesthetics that also sacrifices much value of SQL standardization.

    [1] https://github.com/c-blake/nio

  • Fast CSV Processing with SIMD
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Dec 2021
    I get ~50% the speed of the article's variant with no SIMD at all in https://github.com/c-blake/nio/blob/main/utils/c2tsv.nim

    While in Nim, the main logic is really just bout 1 screenful for me and should not be so hard to follow.

    As commented elsewhere, but bearing repeating, a better approach is to bulk convert text to binary and then operate off of that. One feature you get is fixed sized rows and thus random access to rows without an index. You can even mmap the file and cast it to a struct pointer if you like (though you need the struct pointer to be the right type). When DBs or DB-ish file formats are faster, being in binary is the 0th order reason why.

    The main reason not to do this is if you have no disk space for it.

procs

Posts with mentions or reviews of procs. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-09-26.
  • Exploring Linux command-line space time
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Sep 2023
    Some terminals probably scroll sideways, but this `st` program seems to require running to completion. So, ^C does not give you any report at all.

    While it does RSS not Proportional Set Size (PSS) { arguably parsing /proc/PID/smaps_rollup should be added } and does not integrate program launch with tracking or use netlink to track making kids, an alternative that might interest some is a scrolling terminal kind of log report out of the Nim https://github.com/c-blake/procs .

        pd -pBHd1 -f "%N %R %< %> %J %a" $(pf firefox)
  • Ask HN: Why did Nim not catch-on like wild fire as Rust did?
    16 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 25 Jun 2023
    I don't know about all your other questions, but the https://github.com/c-blake/cligen CLI framework seems much lower effort / ceremony than even Rust's `argh` and is just about as old as `clap` (both started 8 years ago in 2015).

    There are over 50 CLI utilities at https://github.com/c-blake/bu, many of which do something novel rather than just "re-doing ls/find/cat with a twist". While they are really more an "ls/ps construction toolkits" with some default configs to get people going, I think https://github.com/c-blake/lc and https://github.com/c-blake/procs are nicer than Rust alternatives. I mention these since you seem interested in such tools.

  • Unix command line conventions over time
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 May 2022
    Since `ps` is featuring prominently here, folks might be interested in https://github.com/c-blake/procs which is a color ps (Linux-only right now). It has a more canonical CLI since it is based upon https://github.com/c-blake/cligen. It actually does subcommands, too (display, find, scrollsys) and so it can replace pgrep, pkill, ps, etc., etc.

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zsv - zsv+lib: tabular data swiss-army knife CLI + world's fastest (simd) CSV parser

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tsv-utils - eBay's TSV Utilities: Command line tools for large, tabular data files. Filtering, statistics, sampling, joins and more.

nimkernel - A small kernel written in Nim

DataProfiler - What's in your data? Extract schema, statistics and entities from datasets

NimForUE - Nim plugin for UE5 with native performance, hot reloading and full interop that sits between C++ and Blueprints. This allows you to do common UE workflows like for example to extend any UE class in Nim and extending it again in Blueprint if you wish so without restarting the editor. The final aim is to be able to do in Nim what you can do in C++

goawk - A POSIX-compliant AWK interpreter written in Go, with CSV support

cligen - Nim library to infer/generate command-line-interfaces / option / argument parsing; Docs at

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