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buildless-vuejs
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Writing JavaScript without a build system
I resonate with this topic. Checking your own repos on a new computer is one thing… inheriting someone else’s project and running it on your machine in the node ecosystem is very rough.
Anyways, I made a slightly more advanced buildless vue project here: https://github.com/kyleparisi/buildless-vuejs
It has the advantage of using .vue files which I enjoy. Oh and guess what… it has code splitting because you have to define what components the page needs ;).
create-react-app-zero
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Writing JavaScript without a build system
https://github.com/jsebrech/create-react-app-zero
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Why is the JavaScript ecosystem like this
No build frontend dev is a thing, although obscure.
Preact has a no build path in their documentation: https://preactjs.com/guide/v10/getting-started/#no-build-too...
And here’s my no build react setup: https://github.com/jsebrech/create-react-app-zero
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Ask HN: Programming Without a Build System?
Not really the thing you’re looking for, but for those looking for a toolless approach static web apps are a possibility. Host a folder on github pages, put an index.html file in there, start coding.
Plugging my own repo: https://github.com/jsebrech/create-react-app-zero
It is a version of create react app that works in that way, no build tools needed, only a static web server for local development.
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What unpopular webdev opinions do you have?
For example, I made a version of create react app that requires zero build tools and IMHO doesn't concede too much in developer experience. To be fair, I am not using this myself professionally, but as a proof of concept I think it's pretty interesting to see what's possible. https://github.com/jsebrech/create-react-app-zero
- JS is USELESS without ... [fill in the blank]
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Is the madness ever going to end?
I have been in professional web development since 2004 and I mostly agree with the author that there are massive amounts of groupthink going on. "Modern" web development has standardized in tool stacks which are insanely complicated, far beyond anything that is warranted in most cases. We have forgotten how to make simple things in simple ways.
At a minimum you need node, npm, webpack, babel, an spa framework, a frontend router, a css transpiler, a css framework, a test runner, a testing functions library, and a bunch of smaller things, and that's just what is "needed" to build a static website with a bit of interaction. We're not even talking about the dockerized insanity that happens as soon as you want to slide an API under that beast.
I understand why every piece is there, I was there when they arrived on the scene, I understand what problem they solve. What I don't understand is why as a group web developers have decided this is the only way to solve the problem of web development. What we don't have are simpler web stacks. Why do we need npm or babel at all to make a simple web frontend? Modern browsers are good enough that with the right tooling we don't need build pipelines or package managers. Similar arguments can be made for the server-side parts.
Anyway, here's my own two cents to a simpler web dev stack: a version of create react app that is entirely self-contained and has no build steps. https://github.com/jsebrech/create-react-app-zero
- Show HN: Create React App Zero, a no build tools way of making a React app
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mstoical - MStoical - a Forth like language, but better
tachyons - Functional css for humans
mu1 - Prototype tree-walking interpreter back when Mu was a high-level statement-oriented language, c. 2018
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