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- Biff, a Web Framework for Clojure
- Why Is Jepsen Written in Clojure?
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Riff: A “mycelium-clj” for the Clojure ecosystem?
I definitely believe Clojure needs a rails. Not only will it help beginners get started, if it can help people get started faster and build fast like Django and rails do, I think it'll help more with adoption.
Biff and fulcro seems like they have a shot at this
Biff- https://github.com/jacobobryant/biff
Fulcro - https://github.com/fulcrologic/fulcro
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State of Clojure 2023 Results
Jacob is doing a fantastic job with https://biffweb.com/ If the Clojure community would focus more of its manpower on such projects, then I think we can make Clojure the obvious choice to start a software business, by saving an insane amount of time. And time is by far the scarcest resource in a startup.
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Leaving Clojure - Feedback for those that care
If you can get away with not using React, I highly recommend Biff. It uses XTDB and Rum by default but they can be swapped out pretty easily for Postgres and Reagent. I'm planning to publish some docs on how to do that when I have a chance.
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Help finding a webdev framework that works out of the box
The best one of these imo is https://biffweb.com
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Any resources for "current best practices and learnings?"
I'm also really liking the strategy of the old-school is new again with sever side rendering serving actual HTML instead of JSON for certain things, using HTMX, an example can be found here: https://biffweb.com/
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Anyone here using HTMX with Clojure?
Take a look at Biff project https://biffweb.com/
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Recommendations on Datalog Databases -- Schema Libraries
+1 for Malli and XT! For the relevant parts of Biff, see the example app's schema and the transaction reference docs. Biff has its own transaction format which includes schema checks via malli and various other conveniences, and it gets translated into XT's lower-level transaction format. Might provide some inspiration at least.
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Biff tutorial: build a chat app with Clojure
Rum is used throughout, though mostly via middleware[1], so you (almost) never see any calls to `rum.core/render-static-markup`. But all of the hiccup-style data structures (`[:div "foo"]`, etc) do get rendered by Rum.
htmx doesn't render anything on the backend; rather it gives the frontend more ways to interact with the backend. e.g. say you make an inline form--htmx gives you the ability to display/submit that form without refreshing the entire page, but all the html that's sent to the frontend is still getting rendered first by Rum.
[1] See https://github.com/jacobobryant/biff/blob/6353c406adef034448... and https://github.com/jacobobryant/biff/blob/6353c406adef034448...
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What are some alternatives?
kit - Lightweight, modular framework for scalable web development in Clojure
reagent - A minimalistic ClojureScript interface to React.js
clojure-py - A implementation of Clojure in pure (dynamic) Python
coast - The fullest full stack clojure web framework
xtdb - An immutable database for application development and time-travel data compliance, with SQL and XTQL. Developed by @juxt
joy - A full stack web framework written in janet
re-frame - A ClojureScript framework for building user interfaces, leveraging React
shadow-cljs - ClojureScript compilation made easy
jurl - janet wrapper around libcurl
nippy - The fastest serialization library for Clojure
golisp - Lisp Interpreter