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- Biff, a Web Framework for Clojure
- Why Is Jepsen Written in Clojure?
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Riff: A “mycelium-clj” for the Clojure ecosystem?
I definitely believe Clojure needs a rails. Not only will it help beginners get started, if it can help people get started faster and build fast like Django and rails do, I think it'll help more with adoption.
Biff and fulcro seems like they have a shot at this
Biff- https://github.com/jacobobryant/biff
Fulcro - https://github.com/fulcrologic/fulcro
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State of Clojure 2023 Results
Jacob is doing a fantastic job with https://biffweb.com/ If the Clojure community would focus more of its manpower on such projects, then I think we can make Clojure the obvious choice to start a software business, by saving an insane amount of time. And time is by far the scarcest resource in a startup.
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Leaving Clojure - Feedback for those that care
If you can get away with not using React, I highly recommend Biff. It uses XTDB and Rum by default but they can be swapped out pretty easily for Postgres and Reagent. I'm planning to publish some docs on how to do that when I have a chance.
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Help finding a webdev framework that works out of the box
The best one of these imo is https://biffweb.com
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Any resources for "current best practices and learnings?"
I'm also really liking the strategy of the old-school is new again with sever side rendering serving actual HTML instead of JSON for certain things, using HTMX, an example can be found here: https://biffweb.com/
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Anyone here using HTMX with Clojure?
Take a look at Biff project https://biffweb.com/
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Recommendations on Datalog Databases -- Schema Libraries
+1 for Malli and XT! For the relevant parts of Biff, see the example app's schema and the transaction reference docs. Biff has its own transaction format which includes schema checks via malli and various other conveniences, and it gets translated into XT's lower-level transaction format. Might provide some inspiration at least.
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Biff tutorial: build a chat app with Clojure
Rum is used throughout, though mostly via middleware[1], so you (almost) never see any calls to `rum.core/render-static-markup`. But all of the hiccup-style data structures (`[:div "foo"]`, etc) do get rendered by Rum.
htmx doesn't render anything on the backend; rather it gives the frontend more ways to interact with the backend. e.g. say you make an inline form--htmx gives you the ability to display/submit that form without refreshing the entire page, but all the html that's sent to the frontend is still getting rendered first by Rum.
[1] See https://github.com/jacobobryant/biff/blob/6353c406adef034448... and https://github.com/jacobobryant/biff/blob/6353c406adef034448...
hiccup
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Writing HTML by Hand
Not equivalent, but arguably more useful for manual authoring: Emmet [0] was all the range a while back, and I still use it to write HTML. It comes naturally if you're used to writing CSS-like selectors, and mostly gets out of the way.
DSL-wise, I've rather enjoyed Clojure's Hiccup [1].
[0] https://emmet.io/
[1] https://github.com/weavejester/hiccup
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A History of Clojure (2020) [pdf]
* Single-Page App: shadow-cljs for the build concerns (https://github.com/thheller/shadow-cljs), Reagent with Re-frame for complex/large app (https://reagent-project.github.io and https://github.com/day8/re-frame). Even if we now prefer using HTMX (https://htmx.org) and server-side rendering (Hiccup way of manipulating HTML is just amazing, https://github.com/weavejester/hiccup).
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Clojure Bites - Render HTML, introducing selmer template library
I'd prefer hiccup.
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That people produce HTML with string templates is telling us something
That is why I like Hiccup/ Clojure so much: https://github.com/weavejester/hiccup It is very natural to produce something resembling a document in pure Clojure data structures and then just convert it to valid HTML. I think, Reagent has some hiccup extensions that are nice like writing the class or id with a . or # notation right in the keyword describing the tag. So there probably still is some space to improve the ergonomics and probably performance. Concatenating strings still wins performance wise by a lot.
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Building a website like it's 1999... in 2022
Clojure people have been doing this for a decade or so. It’s really so much better to work with. All started with Hiccup and when React came along you got Reagent and many more developments building on the idea.
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Rux: A JSX-inspired way to render view components in Ruby
You’re halfway to Clojure’s hiccup syntax[1] there.
[1]: https://github.com/weavejester/hiccup/blob/master/doc/syntax...
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I taught the chat bot an alternative syntax for HTML, called HBML, basically just braces instead of tags... we are so screwed
That, or Hiccup.
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[how to] Generate server-side HTML
I'm about to learn PureScript, coming from a functional TypeScript, Clojure and Elm background. To get a first taste for the language I thought I'd rewrite my Clojure test-app which generates static HTML files from JSON input using the (hiccup templating library)[https://github.com/weavejester/hiccup]. Is there some similar library in PureScript which would provide functions to create an HTML document and its content? I could not find anything when searching pursuit, but I might be just be using the correct search terms.
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what web framework do you use?
In Clojure thing are much more decentralised. We tend to use basic data structures along with data DSLs like Hiccup to build our software since this is the simplest way to convey meaning while retaining structure to perform additional data transformations.
- Hiccup: Fast library for rendering HTML in Clojure
What are some alternatives?
kit - Lightweight, modular framework for scalable web development in Clojure
Selmer - A fast, Django inspired template system in Clojure.
clojure-py - A implementation of Clojure in pure (dynamic) Python
reitit - A fast data-driven routing library for Clojure/Script
xtdb - An immutable database for application development and time-travel data compliance, with SQL and XTQL. Developed by @juxt
re-frame - A ClojureScript framework for building user interfaces, leveraging React
coast - The fullest full stack clojure web framework
clojure - Various Clojure exercises, utilities and demos.
shadow-cljs - ClojureScript compilation made easy
colisper - Check and transform Lisp code with Comby (beta)
nippy - The fastest serialization library for Clojure