Backbone.js VS cl-ppcre

Got it thanks for the context.

I've read the web app and it seems to me it is just https://backbonejs.org/ re-written in Typescript and allows JSX.

I'm very certain Typescript and JSX will have improved the DX for Backbone like apps, but it doesn't address all of the other issues that teams had with Backbone.

e.g. Cyclical event propagation, state stored in the DOM (i.e. appendChild is error prone in large code bases), etc.

What we see, a decade ago, are that many of the "popular" libraries, frameworks, and methods, not surprisingly, have gone by the wayside, a lot that have remained in current code as difficult-to-removemodernize legacy cruft (Bower, Gulp, Grunt, Backbone, Angular 1, ...), and then we have the small minority that are still here. Some that remain have had their utility lessened/questioned by platform and language improvements (jQuery, lodash, ...), but very, very few exist that are the same now as they were then. Another fun historical reference: issue #118 of "JavaScript Weekly" (February 22, 2013) includes a first link out to asm.js.

Backbone.js gives structure to web applications by providing models with key-value binding and custom events, collections with a rich API of enumerable functions, views with declarative event handling, and connects it all to your existing API over a RESTful JSON interface. site Backbone.js *Backbone.js gives structure to web applications by providing models with key-value binding and custom events…*backbonejs.org

The ajax request is made via a call to Backbone.sync() of Backbone.js, which ultimately calls jquery's $.ajax(). I haven't changed anything about how the call is made... just upgraded cordova.

my gf said it was the best. she uses backbone.js she good dev

Backbone.js

A lot of SPA frameworks and libraries also were developed. We can find out some of its on the internet. They are AngularJs, Reactjs, BackboneJs, DurandalJs,.. and a lot of third party components to make the Javascript coding more easy like RequireJs, Amplifyjs, BreezeJs...

As the internet became faster, and more reliable, and as browsers unified into “evergreen” releases, developers accepted JSON to be the only shape of data needed to travel on wires. A few years back I posted a question of which was a better framework: serving fully processed HTML scripts over Ajax, or only JSON that would be populated on client-side. See, back then, populating JSON was hand crafted, before Knockout, before Backbone, and few other players I don’t recall. The thing you could use back then was Mustache-like, which -by the way- still is a favorite of mine when venturing outside of SPA zone.

I've never used cl-ppcre myself, but its docs[1] claim that it provides compile-time regexes:

> CL-PPCRE uses compiler macros to pre-compile scanners at load time if possible. This happens if the compiler can determine that the regular expression (no matter if it's a string or an S-expression) is constant at compile time and is intended to save the time for creating scanners at execution time (probably creating the same scanner over and over in a loop).

[1]: https://edicl.github.io/cl-ppcre/

A few weeks back Xach recommended cl-ppcre which i found educational.

For simple string processing, there are some functions in the language, that you can find listed here (for string-specific functions) and here (for more generic sequence-handling functions). For anything involving regular expressions, cl-ppcre is the way, in particular the split and register-groups-bind functions.

I must have a serious bug in my writing about this, because this was never about regex engines -- it's about literals and domain-specific sublanguages in general. Composing DSL programs by string concatenation is such a famous source of security bugs you see it in top-10 lists. I linked to the very similar example of a PEG parsing DSL.

But any regex engine that can work with a parse tree shows the same principle, e.g. https://edicl.github.io/cl-ppcre/#create-scanner2

Take a look at - https://github.com/edicl/cl-ppcre

And here's what I believe represents the reality of the situation... Stas was indeed tired of ASDF's changes. Now the nature of what changes to make is a matter of judgement of course, but in this case (I'm thinking of SBCL's bug report request to update ASDF: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sbcl/+bug/1826074), it would be a different matter altogether if the discussion was centered on how best to make the new ASDF work with SBCL, but the thread reads to me like a man who had to put up with too much breakage for the upteenth time. Now, if (for the sake of argument :D) the change was of the necessary kind -- think hardware changes or security issues -- I can still see myself feeling wronged, it's human to do so. Because I don't trust ASDF anymore or I feel as if they (or other people at each step of the process) have not shared enough of the burden. But from the discussions I have read (https://github.com/edicl/cl-ppcre/pull/30) what the ASDF maintainers want to change does not seem unreasonable and they are willing to share the burden. But let us say it's truly a 50/50 deadlock. Well then Linus is right, show us the code, who dares wins. And Stas certainly has enough on his plate. But that's why we must cooperate. You don't have to be a diplomat to know the difference when two people want to work together and when one party wants out. And this setting makes more sense when you read (https://bugs.launchpad.net/sbcl/+bug/1823442) where Stas honestly states he wants nothing more to do with ASDF. I don't think it's unreasonable to surmise there's a bit more going on here than plainly technical issues.

Could you just direct me to some existing discussions, in order to save time? I already read this one.

I plan to use the regular expressions with a cl-ppcre wrapper, also emulating various clojure regular expression operations. Similar to re21, which doesn't quite support the operations in the way I'd like (or match the clojure operations), and whose regular expression literal syntax is "#//".