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asahi-fedora-builder

Builds a minimal Fedora image to run on Apple M-series systems (by leifliddy)

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Hardware and software docs / wiki (by AsahiLinux)
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asahi-fedora-builder

Posts with mentions or reviews of asahi-fedora-builder. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-04-15.
  • People who’ve used leifliddy’s fedora builder; how’s your experience been so far?
    2 projects | /r/AsahiLinux | 15 Apr 2023
    So the differences between my build https://github.com/leifliddy/asahi-fedora-builder and the "offical" https://asahi-fedora-remix.org/ are as follows. 1. The asahi-repos-edge and edge kernel are installed by default **that's not the case with the offical Asahi Fedora Remix build 2. grub will boot from the latest kernel by default ** there's an issue with Asahi Fedora Remix in that regard https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Asahi#Upgrading\_to\_kernel-edge\_(for\_accelerated\_graphics) with my build, there's no need to run that grubby command everytime you install a new kernel 3. I use this script which makes transitioning from uboot --> grub much faster https://github.com/leifliddy/asahi-firstboot/blob/main/sbin/create-efi-bootloader Relying solely on the BOOTAA64.EFI bootloader provided by shim-aa64 is way too slow at the moment (for me anyway) 4. The Grub menu on my build is not hidden and displays correctly. All in the all, the differences are quite minor. The exact same asahi repos are used: https://pagure.io/fedora-asahi/asahi-repos/tree/main I only provide a minimal build though. So if you want GNOME or KDE pre-installed -- then use the offical build https://asahi-fedora-remix.org/ Although, it's ridiculously easy to just run dnf group install 'Fedora Workstation' or dnf group install 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)'
  • Confused about Asahi Linux Minimal -- ubuntu?
    2 projects | /r/AsahiLinux | 30 Mar 2023
    Personally, I would avoid Ubuntu for beginners. I'm not trying to gatekeep/prevent you from using what you want, but Ubuntu is doing some questionable things (e.g. preventing the use of Flatpak). If you want something easy like Ubuntu, Fedora has an Asahi port (https://github.com/leifliddy/asahi-fedora-builder), and I think I've heard that it will be officially supported eventually, but don't take my word for that. The installer linked above doesn't provide a desktop environment, so read the entire Readme to see to set up WiFi and then look up how to install GNOME on Fedora if you want something capable yet easy to use.
  • leifliddy's fedora or the Asahi fedora remix - which to use?
    1 project | /r/AsahiLinux | 27 Mar 2023
  • Any news when the new distro will replace arch?
    1 project | /r/AsahiLinux | 25 Mar 2023
    Here’s a link https://github.com/leifliddy/asahi-fedora-builder. Basically you run a script on MacOS as you would the regular Asahi install. The result is a bare bones Fedora install. Just follow the instructions to connect to the internet through wifi and then use dnf to install a desktop environment. After that, its pretty much like any other Fedora install.
  • Running Fedora on Apple Silicon
    1 project | /r/Fedora | 5 Mar 2023
  • Asahi/Arch Minimal Install + GNOME & GDM/Wayland
    2 projects | /r/AsahiLinux | 22 Feb 2023
    I followed the guide here for a minimal Fedora install https://github.com/leifliddy/asahi-fedora-builder
  • Linus Torvalds modified Fedora Workstation 36 to run on his M2 MacBook Air
    1 project | /r/Fedora | 16 Sep 2022
    Not to be a downer (or an "upper"?), but anyone can have a m2 with Fedora on it right now. asahi-fedora-builder
  • [question] when fedora will support apple M1 SoC ?
    2 projects | /r/Fedora | 14 Apr 2022
    So https://github.com/leifliddy/asahi-fedora-builder is my project.

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Posts with mentions or reviews of docs. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-12-19.
  • macOS 15.0 supports Nested Virtualization on M3 chips
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Jun 2024
    At this point, only the EU can save the iPad.

    Mandate support for alternate OSes, using the same mechanism used by Asahi Linux on Macbooks, https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Apple-Platform-Secur...

  • Apple Platform Security Crash Course
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Jun 2024
  • Broken Software
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 14 May 2024
  • A Brief History of the U.S. Trying to Add Backdoors into Encrypted Data
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Feb 2024
    marcan of the Asahi Linux project got into a discussion on reddit about this, and says that when it comes to hardware, you just can’t know.

    > I can't prove the absence of a silicon backdoor on any machine, but I can say that given everything we know about AS systems (and we know quite a bit), there is no known place a significant backdoor could hide that could completely compromise my system. And there are several such places on pretty much every x86 system

    (Long) thread starts here, show hidden comments for the full discussion https://old.reddit.com/r/AsahiLinux/comments/13voeey/what_is...

    I highly recommend reading this if you’re interested https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Introduction-to-Appl...

  • The Register looks at the first release of Fedora Asahi Remix
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 21 Dec 2023
    Depends on the box. In general if there is a hardwired HDMI port it works, if it's an alt mode it doesn't yet. The feature pages give detail by hardware, heres a direct link to the M2 page https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/M2-Series-Feature-Su...
  • Fedora Asahi Remix
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Dec 2023
    https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/M1-Series-Feature-Su...

    According to this page it should work on M1 MBP, but there is also a note about a specific patch released next week.

  • Sonoma updates bricking MBPs
    1 project | /r/macsysadmin | 7 Dec 2023
    I'm just refuting that OP's dot update problem on Sonoma was caused by the refresh rate bug. In all likelihood OP doesn't have a weird Sonoma/Ventura dual boot situation going on (or Ashai Linux for that matter, who wrote a great article about this). In all my testing (and with a large enterprise sample size) we had zero reports of the refresh bug impacting an Apple Silicon Mac running just Sonoma itself.
  • Speaker Support in Asahi Linux
    1 project | /r/hypeurls | 14 Nov 2023
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Nov 2023
  • Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Nov 2023
    > They don't support variations of software at all. They support the hardware. [...] Asahi does not need to support applications at all.

    From their FAQ page[1]:

    > We will eventually release a remix of Arch Linux ARM, packaged for installation by end-users, as a distribution of the same name. The majority of the work resides in hardware support, drivers, and tools, and it will be upstreamed to the relevant projects. The distribution will be a convenient package for easy installation by end-users and give them access to bleeding-edge versions of the software we develop.

    As distro maintainers, it is their job to make sure the applications they package work on the hardware they support. This includes submitting patches upstream when that is not the case, as application maintainers likely wouldn't want to support such a niche environment directly. So, yes, they rely on volunteers to fix issues, but they will likely have to support many applications themselves.

    There is still a lot of broken software, as this list[2] is surely not exhaustive.

    > Same deal for any other hardware manufacturer. [...] Really not much different to other hardware manufacturers since Linux started.

    No, it's very different. First of all, the amount of Linux hackers who volunteered to reverse engineer the wide variety of hardware was orders of magnitude larger than the Asahi team. Even if they limit the amount of devices they support, modern computers are far more complex than in the early days of Linux. Regardless of how talented the Asahi team is, maintaining all the hardware of a modern computer is a sisyphean task for a project run by volunteers.

    Secondly, hardware manufacturers could see the benefit of getting their hardware to run in Linux, and many eventually took over support from volunteers. Apple has shown no interest in doing so, and has historically been hostile to open source.

    > Asahi devs have made it clear that Apple has chosen to avoid blocking installation of other operating systems.

    The fact they allow installation of other operating systems today, doesn't mean that this decision couldn't change in the future. Services are a large part of their business, and allowing a group of hackers to use their hardware without being part of their software ecosystem may seem like a non-issue today, but if this group grows larger assuming projects like Asahi are successful, this might become a considerable loss of income which wouldn't be in their best interest.

    > Apple has no issue with it.

    Can you point me to an official ackgnowledgment of Asahi Linux by Apple? Or any indication that leaving this door open was a sign of good will, instead of a lack of interest in closing it? What makes you think they wouldn't eventually lock down Macbooks in the same way they do iPhones and iPads?

    > ARM is a stable well supported platform for Linux

    It's really not. A lot of software works, but when it doesn't, the user is SOL. As you can see on their Broken Software page[2], the major issue is precisely with AArch64 support. This should improve eventually, and Asahi is certainly a torchbearer in this scenario, but today it's yet another hurdle of using Apple hardware.

    [1]: https://asahilinux.org/about/#is-this-a-linux-distribution

    [2]: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Broken-Software

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