atlas VS skeema

thanks for contributing this! i will definitely check it, was thinking about using https://atlasgo.io/ for declarative sql code, glad there is another option!

Atlas is a modern database schema management tool that provides a declarative way to manage database schemas and migrations.

Atlas

Check out: https://github.com/ariga/atlas

(I'm one of the authors of this project).

fwiw, I personally am interested in this approach too[0]. I keep running into roadblocks around the ordering of events and some of the hairy issues around "destructive" actions (eg: renaming columns). i think we can get there, especially once we make progress with this LSP.

There are other notable mentions in this space:

Reshape: https://fabianlindfors.se/blog/schema-migrations-in-postgres...

Atlas: https://atlasgo.io/

[0] https://github.com/kiwicopple/declarative-schemas

Atlas: https://github.com/ariga/atlas. It can be integrated with any ORM, but also has an official one for GORM: https://atlasgo.io/guides/orms/gorm

Run the queryx db:create command to create a PostgreSQL database, and then run queryx db:migrate to automatically create the database migration files and database structure. Queryx’s database schema management is built upon Atlas.

One of https://atlasgo.io's creators here.

If a tool blindly drops columns, that's just a bad tool! It doesn't mean the concept is flawed.

Thousands of companies successfully use declarative schema management. Google and Facebook are two examples at a large scale, but it's equally beneficial at smaller scales too. As long as the workflow has sufficient guardrails, it's safe and it speeds up development time.

Some companies use it to auto-generate migrations (which are then reviewed/edited), while others use a fully declarative flow (no "migrations", but automated guardrails and human review).

I'm the author of Skeema (https://github.com/skeema/skeema) which has provided declarative flow for MySQL and MariaDB since 2016. Hundreds of companies use it, including GitHub, SendGrid, Cash App, Wix, Etsy, and many others you have likely heard of. Safety is the primary consideration throughout all of Skeema's design: https://www.skeema.io/docs/features/safety/

Meanwhile a few declarative solutions that support Postgres include sqldef, Migra, Tusker (which builds on Migra), and Atlas.

I’d argue the obvious answer is address the lack of great answers for declarative schema migration in PostgreSQL. There is Skeema https://github.com/skeema/skeema but it doesn’t support Postgres and Prisma iirc forces you into an ORM, atlas looks perfect but has a nonstandard license.

Ahh I see now, you've founded https://github.com/skeema/skeema which is great!

Keep it up!

Using tmpfs for MySQL/MariaDB's data directory helps tremendously. If you're using Docker natively on Linux, use `docker run --tmpfs /var/lib/mysql ...` and that'll do the trick. Only downside is each container restart is slightly slower due to having to re-init the database instance from scratch.

Tuning the database server settings can help a lot too. You can add overrides to the very end of your `docker run` command-line, so that they get sent as command-line args to the database server. For example, use --skip-performance-schema to avoid the overhead of performance_schema if you don't need it in your test/CI environment.

For MySQL 8 in particular, I've found a few additional options help quite a lot: --skip-innodb-adaptive-hash-index --innodb-log-writer-threads=off --skip-log-bin

A lot of other options may be workload-specific. My product Skeema [1] can optionally use ephemeral containerized databases [2] for testing DDL and linting database objects, so the workload is very DDL-heavy, which means the settings can be tuned pretty differently than a typical DML-based workload.

[1] https://github.com/skeema/skeema/

[2] https://www.skeema.io/docs/options/#workspace

Atlas hasn’t made it on my radar until now — surprising considering how many stars it has. Based on the description, it looks like it can do something similar to skeema except it isn’t limited to one flavor of sql like skeema. I’m looking forward to trying it out in my next postgres project.

VARCHAR(N) can store N characters. So with utf8mb3, that's a max of 3N bytes worst-case. But with utf8mb4, it's now 4N bytes, which (with a high N) may exceed internal limits such as maximum length of an index key.

IIRC, there were additional problems in older versions of MySQL, situations where sort buffers were sized to a fixed length equal to the value's worst-case size or something like that. So sorting a large number of utf8mb4 values would use a lot more memory than utf8mb3 values (again, iirc, I might be wrong on this).

So the safer and more backwards-compatible approach was to introduce utf8mb4 as a new separate charset, and allow users to choose. MySQL 8 is now transitioning towards deprecating utf8mb3, and will finally make the utf8 alias point to utf8mb4 sometime in the near future.

That said, there are still a bunch of unpleasant uses of utf8mb3 internally in things like information_schema. I develop schema management tooling and recently lost a week to some of the more obscure ones in https://github.com/skeema/skeema/commit/bf38edb :)

I realize my paradigm on schema driven projects comes probably from my background. I found a very similar tool by chance when reading through my latest feeds and found this tool: https://github.com/skeema/skeema