administrative-scripting-with-julia
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administrative-scripting-with-julia
- GitHub - ninjaaron/administrative-scripting-with-julia: Guide for writing shell scripts in Julia
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Administrative Scripting with Julia
I appreciate the "Why You Shouldn't Use Julia for Administrative Scripts" section[0] which asked exactly the questions I would have asked.
The choice of (non-Bash) language to write command line utilities is in a bit of odd spot right now. Python is basically almost everywhere installed but the dependency on runtime + venv oddities bring their own set of problems. Java has the same runtime need issues though things might improve with initiatives regarding native binary compilation (though including the runtime may not produce exactly lightweight executables). Perl used to be a hot favorite in this space but I don't think lot of people are writing new stuff in Perl even though it is still present by default almost everywhere. Go is almost perfect here except I don't want to deal with 3x the boilerplate. Personally I think Rust isn't a bad choice (libraries like clap hugely reduce the boilerplate) but the learning curve makes it a harder sell (even though for basic utilities, I don't think there would be too much wrestling with the borrow checker). Another choice that comes to mind is Nim; I think it is very well positioned except a lot of people don't know even about it so its a hard sell + even among those who know, everyone is looking at everyone else to take the initiative to adopt it in a corporate environment at a non-trivial scale.
[0]: https://github.com/ninjaaron/administrative-scripting-with-j...
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Lisp or Julia
My question is actually not what everyone uses, but what is best suited for the task. Those two things are, of course, almost always different, because the average person is anything but smart. Here you see that Julia is indeed better suited for handling data than Bash: https://github.com/ninjaaron/administrative-scripting-with-julia And here you see that Lisp will be the best scripting language for certain persons: https://quotepark.com/quotes/1879617-larry-wall-is-lisp-a-candidate-for-a-scripting-language-whil/ Obviously, if you don't have in-depth experience with both languages, you don't have to answer my question.
babashka
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A Tour of Lisps
It also gives you access to Babashka if you want Clojure for other use-cases where start-up time is an issue
https://babashka.org/
- Babashka: Fast native Clojure scripting runtime
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What's the value proposition of meta circular interpreters?
I've tried researching this myself and can't find too much. There's this project metaes which is an mci for JS, and there's the SCI module of the Clojure babashka project, but that's about it. I also saw Triska's video on mci but it was pretty theoretical.
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Adding Dependencies on Clojure Project the Node Way: A Small Intro to neil CLI
Created by the same guy who created babashka which is a way to write bash scripts, node scripts, and even apple scripts using Clojure. A very proficient and influential developer in the Clojure community. This is how borkduke's neil helps us:
- Babashka
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Pure Bash Bible
Not what you asked for but there is Babashka for scripting in Clojure.
https://github.com/babashka/babashka
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Critique of Lazy Sequences in Clojure
Clojure's lazy sequences by default are wonderful ergonomically, but it provides many ways to use strict evaluation if you want to. They aren't really a hassle either. I've been doing Clojure for the last few years and have a few grievances, but overall it's the most coherent, well thought out language I've used and I can't recommend it enough.
There is the issue of startup time with the JVM, but you can also do AOT compilation now so that really isn't a problem. Here are some other cool projects to look at if you're interested:
Malli: https://github.com/metosin/malli
Babashka: https://github.com/babashka/babashka
Clerk: https://github.com/nextjournal/clerk
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Sharpscript: Lisp for Scripting
Being a Clojure addict, I guess I have to leave the obligatory link to Babashka too then: https://github.com/babashka/babashka (Native, fast starting Clojure interpreter for scripting)
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Rash – The Reckless Racket Shell
which is now on hiatus. babashka: https://babashka.org
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Are there any languages (that are in common use in companies) and higher-level that give you the same feeling of simplicity and standardization as C?
I've enjoyed babashka for scripting; which is close enough to clojure to allow using some/many libraries; but (probably) not for embedding.