acme.sh VS mkcert

A self-signed certificate was generated and used by Proxmox which will always generate a warning on the browser. I did not like seeing this when trying to work on my home lab. So, I started looking for ways to put a valid SSL certificate in Proxmox. During my research, I found that Proxmox could be made to integrate with acme.sh; a free SSL certificate generator powered by ACME(Let's Encrypt).

Next, we will install acme.sh, a command-line tool for managing SSL/TLS certificates. I prefer acme.sh over certbot, as it does not depend on the OS version. For more details about acme.sh, check its GitHub repo here.

A very relevant question. Acme.sh, a similar shell script ACME client, had a remote code execution problem last year.

https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh/issues/4668

As a result, any certificates issued (or renewed) after Feb 8th will not work on older Android devices (< 7.1.1), unless the ACME client has been configure to request an alternate certificate chain. The "alternate chain" workaround will also stop working on June 6th.

I need to support these older Android devices so I am looking for alternatives. I have seen ZeroSSL mentioned a few times; it is also the default CA for acme.sh (the ACME client I am using nowadays) [2]. They have a number of paid plans but ACME certificates are free [3].

I'll be testing this over the next few days, but I would also like to ask if people here have experience with ZeroSSL (good or bad :-). Any feedback would be helpful.

[1]: https://letsencrypt.org/2023/07/10/cross-sign-expiration.html

[2]: https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh

[3]: https://zerossl.com/documentation/acme/

Huh, the environment variable thing was specifically aimed at acme.sh which rather arbitrarily changed the config value from ACMEDNS_UPDATE_URL to ACMEDNS_BASE_URL, never acknowledged this in a changelog and then silently failed after an automatic upgrade as recommended by the default install:

https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh/commit/2ce145f359...

It's also cleared out my .account.conf files when run on the suggested cron.

I've started using updown which also monitors my TLS certs simply because I no longer trust the process to work as documented.

It depends on your provider though. I can tell from experience that with OVH and their API, it's been easy to set up the automatic renewal via DNS verification. Apparently, the official client has support for the DNS API of 159 providers: https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh/wiki/dnsapi

For the few people here that happen to run a self-hosted email server with acme.sh for TLS key/cert generation and Cloudflare for DNS management, I have made a tool that i personally use to get a perfect 100% score on Internet.nl's email test.

All of this is to say it's a decent amount of work to save the hassle of deploying certbot or acme.sh on the remote machines, pick your poison.

Here is a really solid guide for setting up the ACME DNS challenge with pretty much any DNS provider

People wonder why I like using the shell-based ACME client like dehydrated (or acme.sh):

* https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=dehydrated

* https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh

Versus the official client certbot:

* https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=python3-certbot

A kludgy as very long shell scripts are (thought to be), I have a better chance of being able to go through all the code and understand it than a dozen(+) Python libraries.

The experimental HTTPS flag relies on mkcert, designed for a single development system. If you run a Docker container, the flag won’t configure your local browser to trust its certificate.

The author mentions difficulties with HTTPS and trying stuff locally.

I've had some success with mkcert [1] to easily create certificates trusted by browsers, I can suggest to look into this. You are your own root CA, I think it can work without an internet connection.

[1] https://github.com/FiloSottile/mkcert/

Solution: mkcert – Your Zero-Configuration HTTPS Enabler Meet mkcert, a user-friendly, zero-configuration tool designed for creating locally-trusted development certificates. Find it on its GitHub page and follow the instructions tailored for your operating system. For Mac users employing Homebrew, simply execute the following commands in your terminal:

Well, Certifi does not ship with your company's certificates! So requesting internal services may come with additional painful extra steps! Also for a local development environment that uses mkcert for example!

My project, getlocalcert.net[1] may be the one you're thinking of.

Since I'm also building in this space, I'll give my perspective. Local certificate generation is complicated. If you spend the time, you can figure it out, but it's begging for a simpler solution. You can use tools like mkcert[2] for anything that's local to your machine. However, if you're already using ACME in production, maybe you'd prefer to use ACME locally? I think that's what Anchor offers, a unified approach.

There's a couple references in the Anchor blog about solving the distribution problem by building better tooling[3]. I'm eager to learn more, that's a tough nut to crack. My theory for getlocalcert is that the distribution problem is too difficult (for me) to solve, so I layer the tool on top of Let's Encrypt certificates instead. The end result for both tools is a trusted TLS certificate issued via ACME automation.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36674224

2. https://github.com/FiloSottile/mkcert

3. https://blog.anchor.dev/the-acme-gap-introducing-anchor-part...

Looks like step-ca/step-cli [1] and mkcert [2] have been mentioned. Another related tool is XCA [3] - a gui tool to manage CAs and server/client TLS certificates. It takes off some of the tedium in using openssl cli directly. It also stores the certs and keys in an encrypted database. It doesn't solve the problem of getting the root CA certificate into the system store or of hosting the revocation list. I use XCA to create and store the root CA. Intermediate CAs signed with it are passed to other issuers like vault and step-issuer.

[1] https://smallstep.com/docs/step-ca/

[2] https://github.com/FiloSottile/mkcert

[3] https://hohnstaedt.de/xca/

We use mkcert for this, it works wonderfully.

https://github.com/FiloSottile/mkcert