ProtonMail Web Client
Mailpile
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4,125 | 8,779 | |
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10.0 | 4.0 | |
25 days ago | 6 months ago | |
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ProtonMail Web Client
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Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain
> Is this password-derived key the "account key" which I see in the Proton Mail settings interface?
No, the account key is an OpenPGP key which is encrypted with a key derived from your password. The "key encryption key" is not separately visible. The address keys are in turn encrypted using the account key.
> Please clarify what key derivation function is being used.
We use bcrypt, in addition to the OpenPGP S2K (i.e. the bcrypt output is fed as the "password" to OpenPGP's key encryption).
We are in the process of rolling out OpenPGP.js v6, which supports Argon2 for the OpenPGP S2K step, after which we'll start using that - but we aren't quite yet.
> Are there instructions for verifying that all this is happening? I think a lot of folks on HN won't be convinced otherwise.
Take a look at https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/blob/main/packages/..., for example. Though to be honest, if you want to verify that we aren't sending the password to the server anywhere, in principle you'd have to check the code of the entire web app. It's all open source, but it's a lot of work, of course. But you can also check the latest audit report: https://proton.me/blog/security-audit. They also verified all of this stuff.
> It's just that I'm going to create an OpenPGP identity for things like signing code commits on git, signing packages I publish. (...) So I was really hoping to be able to use Proton Mail with this identity instead of the key pair that's generated for the account.
Yeah, I understand. Though, the typical advice from a cryptographer's perspective would be, it's better to use separate keys for separate purposes; and the simplest way to do that is to generate separate OpenPGP certificates, so that's what we'd generally recommend. But, if you want to generate separate subkeys and sign them all using a common primary key, that's also reasonable enough. And, we can improve the documentation on that, although it's a bit of a niche use case (not for HN of course, but for the general audience it is).
> Thanks for reaching out here on HN. I've been a really happy Proton Mail customer and now I'm even happier.
Thanks, glad to hear! :)
- Has anyone tried to run the Proton Mail UI locally?
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ProtonDrive encryption key
The source code is here https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients
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Proton Pass – Protecting your passwords and online identity
> Finally, in keeping with our long track record of transparency, Proton Pass is open source so anyone can review and verify our security architecture
They sure do enjoy writing that sentence without including any hyperlinks. This (https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/tree/main/applicati...) appears to be the browser extension and https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/tree/main/packages/... appears to look like the backend referenced in the extension's readme, but that directory's readme is zero bytes so (shrug)
- Where is the source code for Proton Drive?
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Basic HTML Mode?
Fork the frontend and make your own lightweight option
- Where can I find the source code of the web app?
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Announcement: SMTP Server in Rust with DMARC, DANE, MTA-STS, Sieve, OTEL support
PS: I hope that we selfhosters will have a modern, efficient, easy to use mail suite one day with modern features like JMAP, good self-learning spam integration, automated checks and validations for SPF/DMARC/DKIM or whether the IP/host suddenly appears in a blocklist and integrated encryption at rest for emails. Something that isn't 30 services in a container image, with 30 different configuration styles. Maybe even with an API integrated that's compatible to the ProtonMail frontend (like the neutron server once intended to be). Anyway, I'm sorry for dreaming. ;)
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Why is the "Special offer" button still there after I purchased 1 year of Mail Plus through that very button?? Not happy.
And if you want to customize it further you can use Stylus to add custom CSS, Tampermonkey to add JS, or even modify the whole thing yourself from source (if you run it locally it syncs with your actual account).
- Is Proton Drive better than Sync.com?
Mailpile
- [Self Hosted] Selbst gehostete Mailserver: mailcow, mailinabox, mailU... hast du sie (eingehend) getestet? Ihre Meinung und Ratschläge hier, danke!
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My slow progression towards and away from NextCloud
Have a look at mailpile if you are after a web interface; or, the ever-dependable Thunderbird if you are fine with a desktop application.
- looking for thunderbird alternative: dockered (web) mail client that saves data locally
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selhosted mailservers: mailcow, mailinabox, mailU... have you (deeply) tested them? Your opinion and advices here, thanks!
mailpile seems good, but I would encripted things and besides this it is well mantained? The dockerfile here is old https://github.com/mailpile/Mailpile. By the way I tested a container, this rroemhild/mailpile, and it seems easy and with a good interface.
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All self-hosted email client options are ugly!
Mailpile supports theming. https://github.com/mailpile/Mailpile/wiki/Themes
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Email Buffer IMAP
Take a look at Mailpile.
- Maddy: Composable all-in-one mail server
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We need better open source e-mail clients!
Mailpile.is comes to mind. Their Twitter account is inactive since 2018, but they did fix some things on Github in November of 2020: https://github.com/mailpile/Mailpile/
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Delta Chat – decentralized chat via email
> Email is not decentralized. It relies on the central authority of domain registries.
By that definition, almost every chat app is centralized, especially if you include the step of downloading it over HTTPS. In any case, it would be possible to further enhance email using something like SMTorP so that .onion addresses are used instead.[0]
> And then if you do decide that whatever encryption scheme you've chosen is right for you, there's no guarantee any significant mass of people supports it.
The same is true of any system which is proposed as an alternative to email. Admittedly it will be difficult for a UI to convey the security properties of messages when you are interacting with users whose email clients don't support the recommended extensions, but there is always the risk that a recipient will copy-paste the plaintext of your securely sent message into an unsecured channel.
[0] https://github.com/mailpile/Mailpile/wiki/SMTorP
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What’s a safe email application for ios/ pc / android?
For PC : Thunderbird or Mailpile
What are some alternatives?
SimpleLogin - The SimpleLogin back-end and web app
Roundcube - The Roundcube Webmail suite
RainLoop - Simple, modern & fast web-based email client
Cypht - Cypht: Lightweight Open Source webmail written in PHP and JavaScript
Tutanota makes encryption easy - Tuta is an email service with a strong focus on security and privacy that lets you encrypt emails, contacts and calendar entries on all your devices.
WebMail Lite - AfterLogic WebMail Lite PHP. Fast and easy-to-use webmail front-end for your existing IMAP mail server, Plesk or cPanel.
proton-mail - React web application to manage ProtonMail
AnonAddy - Anonymous email forwarding