Tidier.jl VS Flux.jl

Compare Tidier.jl vs Flux.jl and see what are their differences.

Tidier.jl

Meta-package for data analysis in Julia, modeled after the R tidyverse. (by TidierOrg)
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Tidier.jl Flux.jl
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Tidier.jl

Posts with mentions or reviews of Tidier.jl. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-12-27.
  • Tidier.jl: Meta-package for data analysis in Julia, modeled after R tidyverse
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 15 Feb 2024
  • Julia 1.10 Released
    15 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Dec 2023
    btw, there has been a pretty nice effort of reimplementing the tidyverse in julia with https://github.com/TidierOrg/Tidier.jl and it seems to be quite nice to work with, if you were missing that from R at least
  • Pandas vs. Julia – cheat sheet and comparison
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 May 2023
    Indeed DataFrames.jl isn't and won't be the fastest way to do many things. It makes a lot of trade offs in performance for flexibility. The columns of the dataframe can be any indexable array, so while most examples use 64-bit floating point numbers, strings, and categorical arrays, the nice thing about DataFrames.jl is that using arbitrary precision floats, pointers to binaries, etc. are all fine inside of a DataFrame without any modification. This is compared to things like the Pandas allowed datatypes (https://pbpython.com/pandas_dtypes.html). I'm quite impressed by the DataFrames.jl developers given how they've kept it dynamic yet seem to have achieved pretty good performance. Most of it is smart use of function barriers to avoid the dynamism in the core algorithms. But from that knowledge it's very clear that systems should be able to exist that outperform it even with the same algorithms, in some cases just by tens of nanoseconds but in theory that bump is always there.

    In the Julia world the one which optimizes to be fully non-dynamic is TypedTables (https://github.com/JuliaData/TypedTables.jl) where all column types are known at compile time, removing the dynamic dispatch overhead. But in Julia the minor performance gain of using TypedTables vs the major flexibility loss is the reason why you pretty much never hear about it. Probably not even worth mentioning but it's a fun tidbit.

    > For what it's worth, data.table is my favourite to use and I believe it has the nicest ergonomics of the three I spoke about.

    I would be interested to hear what about the ergonomics of data.table you find useful. if there are some ideas that would be helpful for DataFrames.jl to learn from data.table directly I'd be happy to share it with the devs. Generally when I hear about R people talk about tidyverse. Tidier (https://github.com/TidierOrg/Tidier.jl) is making some big strides in bringing a tidy syntax to Julia and I hear that it has had some rapid adoption and happy users, so there are some ongoing efforts to use the learnings of R API's but I'm not sure if someone is looking directly at the data.table parts.

  • Tidyverse 2.0.0
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Apr 2023
    “Tidier.jl is a 100% Julia implementation of the R tidyverse mini-language in Julia.”

    https://github.com/TidierOrg/Tidier.jl

  • What's Julia's biggest weakness?
    7 projects | /r/Julia | 18 Mar 2023
    A recent package, Tidier.jl, is coming from a R package developer: https://github.com/kdpsingh/Tidier.jl

Flux.jl

Posts with mentions or reviews of Flux.jl. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-12-27.
  • Julia 1.10 Released
    15 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Dec 2023
  • What Apple hardware do I need for CUDA-based deep learning tasks?
    3 projects | /r/macbook | 27 May 2023
    If you are really committed to running on Apple hardware then take a look at Tensorflow for macOS. Another option is the Julia programming language which has very basic Metal support at a CUDA-like level. FluxML would be the ML framework in Julia. I’m not sure either option will be painless or let you do everything you could do with a Nvidia GPU.
  • [D] ClosedAI license, open-source license which restricts only OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, and Meta from commercial use
    5 projects | /r/MachineLearning | 7 May 2023
    Flux dominance!
  • What would be your programming language of choice to implement a JIT compiler ?
    5 projects | /r/ProgrammingLanguages | 9 Apr 2023
    I’m no compiler expert but check out flux and zygote https://fluxml.ai/ https://fluxml.ai/
  • Any help or tips for Neural Networks on Computer Clusters
    5 projects | /r/fortran | 27 Feb 2023
    I would suggest you to look into Julia ecosystem instead of C++. Julia is almost identical to Python in terms of how you use it but it's still very fast. You should look into flux.jl package for Julia.
  • [D] Why are we stuck with Python for something that require so much speed and parallelism (neural networks)?
    1 project | /r/MachineLearning | 23 Dec 2022
    Give Julia a try: https://fluxml.ai
  • Deep Learning With Flux: Loss Doesn't Converge
    2 projects | /r/Julia | 31 Jul 2022
    2) Flux treats softmax a little different than most other activation functions (see here for more details) such as relu and sigmoid. When you pass an activation function into a layer like Dense(3, 32, relu), Flux expects that the function is broadcast over the layer's output. However, softmax cannot be broadcast as it operates over vectors rather than scalars. This means that if you want to use softmax as the final activation in your model, you need to pass it into Chain() like so:
  • “Why I still recommend Julia”
    11 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 25 Jun 2022
    Can you point to a concrete example of one that someone would run into when using the differential equation solvers with the default and recommended Enzyme AD for vector-Jacobian products? I'd be happy to look into it, but there do not currently seem to be any correctness issues in the Enzyme issue tracker that are current (3 issues are open but they all seem to be fixed, other than https://github.com/EnzymeAD/Enzyme.jl/issues/278 which is actually an activity analysis bug in LLVM). So please be more specific. The issue with Enzyme right now seems to moreso be about finding functional forms that compile, and it throws compile-time errors in the event that it cannot fully analyze the program and if it has too much dynamic behavior (example: https://github.com/EnzymeAD/Enzyme.jl/issues/368).

    Additional note, we recently did a overhaul of SciMLSensitivity (https://sensitivity.sciml.ai/dev/) and setup a system which amounts to 15 hours of direct unit tests doing a combinatoric check of arguments with 4 hours of downstream testing (https://github.com/SciML/SciMLSensitivity.jl/actions/runs/25...). What that identified is that any remaining issues that can arise are due to the implicit parameters mechanism in Zygote (Zygote.params). To counteract this upstream issue, we (a) try to default to never default to Zygote VJPs whenever we can avoid it (hence defaulting to Enzyme and ReverseDiff first as previously mentioned), and (b) put in a mechanism for early error throwing if Zygote hits any not implemented derivative case with an explicit error message (https://github.com/SciML/SciMLSensitivity.jl/blob/v7.0.1/src...). We have alerted the devs of the machine learning libraries, and from this there has been a lot of movement. In particular, a globals-free machine learning library, Lux.jl, was created with fully explicit parameters https://lux.csail.mit.edu/dev/, and thus by design it cannot have this issue. In addition, the Flux.jl library itself is looking to do a redesign that eliminates implicit parameters (https://github.com/FluxML/Flux.jl/issues/1986). Which design will be the one in the end, that's uncertain right now, but it's clear that no matter what the future designs of the deep learning libraries will fully cut out that part of Zygote.jl. And additionally, the other AD libraries (Enzyme and Diffractor for example) do not have this "feature", so it's an issue that can only arise from a specific (not recommended) way of using Zygote (which now throws explicit error messages early and often if used anywhere near SciML because I don't tolerate it).

    So from this, SciML should be rather safe and if not, please share some details and I'd be happy to dig in.

  • Flux: The Elegant Machine Learning Stack
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 4 May 2022
  • Jax vs. Julia (Vs PyTorch)
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 May 2022
    > In his item #1, he links to https://discourse.julialang.org/t/loaderror-when-using-inter... The issue is actually a Zygote bug, a Julia package for auto-differentiation, and is not directly related to Julia codebase (or Flux package) itself. Furthermore, the problematic code is working fine now, because DiffEqFlux has switched to Enzyme, which doesn't have that bug. He should first confirm whether the problem he is citing is actually a problem or not.

    > Item #2, again another Zygote bug.

    If flux chose a buggy package as a dependency, that's on them, and users are well justified in steering clear of Flux if it has buggy dependencies. As of today, the Project.toml for both Flux and DiffEqFlux still lists Zygote as a dependency. Neither list Enzyme.

    https://github.com/FluxML/Flux.jl/blob/master/Project.toml

What are some alternatives?

When comparing Tidier.jl and Flux.jl you can also consider the following projects:

Julia-DataFrames-Tutorial - A tutorial on Julia DataFrames package

Pytorch - Tensors and Dynamic neural networks in Python with strong GPU acceleration

tidytable - Tidy interface to 'data.table'

Knet.jl - Koç University deep learning framework.

py-shiny - Shiny for Python

tensorflow - An Open Source Machine Learning Framework for Everyone

DataFramesMeta.jl - Metaprogramming tools for DataFrames

Transformers.jl - Julia Implementation of Transformer models

julia - The Julia Programming Language

Torch.jl - Sensible extensions for exposing torch in Julia.

db-benchmark - reproducible benchmark of database-like ops

Lux.jl - Explicitly Parameterized Neural Networks in Julia