TiddlyWiki VS deno

Compare TiddlyWiki vs deno and see what are their differences.

TiddlyWiki

A self-contained JavaScript wiki for the browser, Node.js, AWS Lambda etc. (by Jermolene)

deno

A modern runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript. (by denoland)
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TiddlyWiki deno
273 448
7,710 92,907
- 0.5%
9.6 9.9
4 days ago 2 days ago
JavaScript Rust
GNU General Public License v3.0 or later MIT License
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TiddlyWiki

Posts with mentions or reviews of TiddlyWiki. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-02-22.
  • It's 29 Delphi, I mean
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 Feb 2024
    > What does ownership mean here?

    It means owning the code and the data. With webapps, the code and data are hosted and owned, the users do not own the code, cannot run it independently. This is a clear dileneation between owner and user, and the owners can use that clear line to create artificial scarcity of various kinds. (The most popular being the subscription SaaS model). It's also easier to defend your IP since end users never see your binaries.

    I like to make my software single html files whenever possible. People can just save them and run them locally. Havent met anyone who cares yet though.

    I like that idea a lot, and I care. I think others care, but yes, it's a niche interest. Take a look at https://tiddlywiki.com/ for an example of a fairly successful project that uses the single html format running locally. However it suffers from limitations on File|Save which often requires a separate runtime of some kind to support.

    Another project that approaches this ideal is https://redbean.dev/, @jart's tiny, performant, featureful single-file webserver. In this case the "single file" is a server executable + zip whose state must be updated on the command-line, but I think hits a sweet spot in terms of practicality, and a global minima when it comes to minimizing dependencies. (Redbean bundles SQLite and Lua so it's also possible to do through-the-web state updates as in a traditional webapp.)

    My own project, Simpatico, aspires to be something along these lines. Eventually your browser tab is both a client and server process, connecting via websockets to other connected browsers, storing all state locally. I call this pattern "monomorphism", a play on the "isomorphic" javascript SPA. The server[2] is currently written in ~1 node file, but eventually I would like to port to redbean (and greenbean, the websocket version of redbean, but it isn't quite ready yet). The server grew several features to support a fast, practical BTD loop using markdown[1], and safe, performant execution on the public internet[2], but ultimately I'd like to pare it down to serving a single html file and allow the connected clients to provide all diversity of experience. I've used it to explore all kinds of browser apis, from crypto[3] to svg[4] to writing my own libraries (combine[4] and stree[5]). And it's all running locally, and easily hosted on a $5 VPS, and its all open source.

    1 - https://simpatico.io/lit.md

    2 - https://simpatico.io/reflector

    3 - https://simpatico.io/crypto

    4 - https://simpatico.io/combine

    5 - https://simpatico.io/stree

  • TiddlyWiki – A non-linear personal web notebook
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Feb 2024
  • Ask HN: Looking for lightweight personal blogging platform
    35 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Feb 2024
  • Software suggestions
    1 project | /r/mothershiprpg | 7 Dec 2023
    I use TiddlyWiki. It's a portable editable wiki that doesn't require a web server or web hosting. You open it from your computer, edit it, and save it. You get all of the linking that you'd expect to see in a wiki, and it's super readable and easy to use.
  • BASIC Anywhere Machine
    1 project | /r/QBeducation | 11 Sep 2023
    It is a single-HTML-file TiddlyWiki instance that runs in a web browser (offline as well as online), meant to be downloaded and stored wherever suits you best. Everything that you see when working in BASIC Anywhere Machine (everything that makes "BAM" work as an IDE and all BASIC programs) exist in the one HTML file.
  • TiddlyPWA: putting TiddlyWiki on modern web app steroids
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Jul 2023
    TiddlyWiki still works as intended: https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted but there are so many different clients to run on. Mobile or Desktop ? What OS? What Browser?

    This effort https://val.packett.cool/blog/tiddlypwa/ is remarkable as the mobile side of saving is not as robust as on the desktop side of things and there is a scaling limit on performance as the number of tiddlers grows. Also the syncing between tw documents between different desktop/mobile clients can be a challenge with diffing.

    Since then I've moved back to plain vanilla vim for a wiki (map gf :tabe ) but tw.html is still good for data other than plain text and TiddlyPWA https://tiddly.packett.cool/ is a great effort to revisit TiddlyWiki again.

  • Effect of Perceptual Load on Performance Within IDE in People with ADHD Symptoms
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Jul 2023
    You should check out TiddlyWiki as it’s designed around the concept that small linkable notes are the best way to organize.

    https://tiddlywiki.com/

  • Does anyone do a digital journal?
    1 project | /r/Journaling | 12 Jul 2023
    It’s html based so you can access it in the same way you would access a website but it can be locally stored. Saving is a bit tricky but there are multiple solutions detailed on their site. https://tiddlywiki.com/
  • Be brutally honest: What are the chances of a motivated 50-year-old person in US who have never studied computers to be able not only to teach herself how to code but also to make a bare minimum living?
    2 projects | /r/learnprogramming | 11 Jul 2023
  • Expose Tiddly on Network
    1 project | /r/TiddlyWiki5 | 5 Jul 2023
    Hi, you can use tw on nodejs with npm package tiddlywiki....

deno

Posts with mentions or reviews of deno. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-02.
  • Bun - The One Tool for All Your JavaScript/Typescript Project's Needs?
    4 projects | dev.to | 2 Apr 2024
    NodeJS is the dominant Javascript server runtime environment for Javascript and Typescript (sort of) projects. But over the years, we have seen several attempts to build alternative runtime environments such as Deno and Bun, today’s subject, among others.
  • Bun 1.1
    17 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Apr 2024
    https://github.com/denoland/deno/issues is the ideal place -- we try to triage all incoming issues, the more specific the repro the easier it is to address but we will take a look at everything that comes in.
  • I have created a small anti-depression script
    4 projects | dev.to | 5 Mar 2024
    Install Node.js (or Bun, or Deno, or whatever JS runtime you prefer) if it's not there
  • How QUIC is displacing TCP for speed
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Feb 2024
    QUIC is very exciting, after seeing what it can do for performance in Cloudflare network and Cloudflare workers, I can't wait to finally see it in Deno[0] 1.41.

    [0] https://github.com/denoland/deno/pull/21942#issuecomment-192...

  • Unison Cloud
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 Feb 2024
    So as an end user it's kind of like https://deno.com/ where you buy into a runtime + comes prepacked with DBs (k/v stores), scheduling, and deploy stuff?

    > by storing Unison code in a database, keyed by the hash of that code, we gain a perfect incremental compilation cache which is shared among all developers of a project. This is an absolutely WILD feature, but it's fantastic and hard to go back once you've experienced it. I am basically never waiting around for my code to compile - once code has been parsed and typechecked once, by anyone, it's not touched again until it's changed.

    Interesting. Whats it like upgrading and managing dependencies in that code? I'd assume it gets more complex when it's not just the Union system but 3rd party plugins (stuff interacting with the OS or other libs).

  • Deno in 2023
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Feb 2024
    ~90MB+ at this stage and do now allow compression without erroring out. Deploying ala Golang is not feasible at that level but could well be down the line if this dev branch is picked up again!

    The exe output grew from from ~50MB to plus ~90MB from 2021 to 2024: https://github.com/denoland/deno/discussions/9811 which mean Deno is worse than Node.js's pkg solution by a decent margin.

  • Mini site for recommending songs using Svelte & Deno
    2 projects | dev.to | 3 Feb 2024
    Behind the scenes is a simple Sveltekit-powered server function to fetch a Spotify client token then find a user's recommendation playlist and its track information. A Deno edge function to performs this data fetch and renders server-side Svelte.
  • Supercharge your app with user extensions using Deno JavaScript runtime
    4 projects | dev.to | 24 Jan 2024
    If your application is written in JavaScript, integrating it with JavaScript extensions is a no-brainer. However, Secutils.dev is entirely written in Rust. How would I even begin? Fortunately, I recently came across an excellent blog post series explaining how to implement your JavaScript runtime in a Rust application with Deno:
  • Deno, the next-generation JavaScript runtime
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Jan 2024
  • Oxlint – written in Rust – 50-100 Times Faster than ESLint
    13 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 15 Dec 2023

What are some alternatives?

When comparing TiddlyWiki and deno you can also consider the following projects:

logseq - A local-first, non-linear, outliner notebook for organizing and sharing your personal knowledge base. Use it to organize your todo list, to write your journals, or to record your unique life.

ASP.NET Core - ASP.NET Core is a cross-platform .NET framework for building modern cloud-based web applications on Windows, Mac, or Linux.

Dokuwiki - The DokuWiki Open Source Wiki Engine

typescript-language-server - TypeScript & JavaScript Language Server

obsidian-releases - Community plugins list, theme list, and releases of Obsidian.

pnpm - Fast, disk space efficient package manager

Wiki.js - Wiki.js | A modern and powerful wiki app built on Node.js

esbuild - An extremely fast bundler for the web

BookStack - A platform to create documentation/wiki content built with PHP & Laravel

bun - Incredibly fast JavaScript runtime, bundler, test runner, and package manager – all in one

Mediawiki - 🌻 The collaborative editing software that runs Wikipedia. Mirror from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core. See https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access for contributing.

Koa - Expressive middleware for node.js using ES2017 async functions