Smalltalk VS squeak.org

Compare Smalltalk vs squeak.org and see what are their differences.

Smalltalk

By the Bluebook implementation of Smalltalk-80 (by dbanay)
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Smalltalk

Posts with mentions or reviews of Smalltalk. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-01-01.

squeak.org

Posts with mentions or reviews of squeak.org. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-04-12.
  • [Q] alternative implementation to IBM Smalltalk
    1 project | /r/smalltalk | 19 Apr 2023
  • Old version of offline Scratch that had a secret OS
    1 project | /r/scratch | 18 Apr 2023
    Also, it's not really an "operating system", nor was it implemented by the ST. It's just part of Squeak (you got the name right), the "engine" Scratch 1.x was made with (which lets you edit the code in the same window it's running in).
  • Ask HN: Alternatives to organizing code in files and folders?
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Apr 2023
    Just downloaded https://squeak.org/ to play around with this concept.

    I wonder if there is already a modern tool/suite for Node/Python inspired by Smalltalk...

  • What are some important differences between the popular versions of OOP (e.g. Java, Python) vs. the purist's versions of OOP (e.g. Smalltalk)?
    4 projects | /r/ProgrammingLanguages | 7 Apr 2023
    AFAIK the major SmallTalk distributions are https://squeak.org/ and https://pharo.org/. I've heard that Pharo is more complex and "practical", while Squeak is more educational and beginner-friendly. But both stick to their roots with "everything is an object or method", extreme reflection, and integrated runtime/IDE.
  • Ask HN: What software stack to select for this boot to code computer?
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Mar 2023
    Your concept looks nice, it reminds me a bit of the Lisperati: https://www.hackster.io/news/the-lisperati1000-is-a-cyberdec...

    So, did you consider Lisp or maybe Smalltalk? Plan 9 or Inferno might also be options.

    Plan 9 comes in different variants, the "classic" one (with a Raspberry Pi port by Richard Miller) or 9front, an Inferno porting tutorial can be found at https://github.com/yshurik/inferno-rpi

    Lisp and Smalltalk can run with or without Linux underneath, e.g. on the Raspberry Pi.

    Bare-metal Lisp is available with interim: http://interim-os.com

    Finally, bare-metal Smalltalk is available in my crosstalk system: https://github.com/michaelengel/crosstalk

    Of course, Lisp and Smalltalk can also run hosted under Linux, e.g. using Squeak (https://squeak.org), Pharo (https://pharo.org) or InterLisp (https://github.com/Interlisp/medley).

    Or - a crazy idea - build an emacs-only machine. That would be fun! :)

  • Squeak Morphic Layers
    2 projects | /r/Squeak | 1 Feb 2023
    This repository contains multiple projects closely related to (hardware-accelerated) rendering in Squeak/Smalltalk.
  • Squeak Graphics OpenGL
    2 projects | /r/Squeak | 31 Jan 2023
    Packages related to using OpenGL in Squeak/Smalltalk.
  • Smalltalk-80 on Raspberry Pi: A Bare Metal Implementation
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Jan 2023
    Author here, feel free to ask any questions you have :).

    It's amazing this little project shows up again here. So far, I received a lot of very positive and friendly feedback about this little pet project of mine.

    The whole project would not have been possible without the work of Rene Stange, who created the circle bare-metal library for the Raspberry Pi (https://github.com/rsta2) and Dan Banay, who created a C++ implementation of the Smalltalk-80 VM (https://github.com/dbanay/Smalltalk). I mostly hacked together some glue code...

    If you want to dig deeper, the Blue Book by Adele Goldberg and David Robson (scan provided by Stephane Ducasse, thanks a lot!) is _the_ reference on both the language and the structure and implementation of the underlying bytecode VM: http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks/BlueBook/Bluebook....

    Beware, though it's fully functional, crosstalk is still limited by constraints of the original Smalltalk 80 system - e.g. in terms of color (black and white only), possible screen resolution (2^20 pixels, the system crashes if you try to increase the resolution beyond this) and available memory (~1 MB!).

    Nevertheless, I think it's a rather authentic reproduction of a more than 40 year old system and I learned (in a comment thread on a completely different topic) that one of our fellow hackernews regulars used it to teach his kid Smalltalk programming - love it! I haven't tried to optimize it significantly, so there's no JIT compiler or bitblit acceleration using the Raspberry Pi GPU.

    There's a more modern bare-metal Smalltalk implementation based on Squeak (https://squeak.org) for the Raspberry Pi by Pablo Marx, though this seems to have some stability problems according to the author: https://github.com/pablomarx/RaspberrySqueak

    Finally, if you are interested in alternative bare-metal language/OS environments for the Raspberry Pi, you could also give Lukas Hartmann's (of MNT Reform notebook fame) Interim OS a try: http://interim-os.com

  • Ask HN: Programming Without a Build System?
    15 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Nov 2022
    Came here to mention Smalltalk. In things like Smalltalk-80 and Squeak, there was no build system, there are no source code files, there isn't anything but the Smalltalk Development Environment. With something like ENVY/Developer, building involved generating an exported image from the environment.

    If OP wants to try it: https://squeak.org/

  • Programming Portals
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Oct 2022
    She missed the biggest ‚programming portal‘ of all: Squeak (Smalltalk) (https://squeak.org/)

    Inspecting objects, ‚live‘ coding, a GUI that's intimately tied to its CLI - that's exactly Squeak!

    The Morphic UI: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1870

What are some alternatives?

When comparing Smalltalk and squeak.org you can also consider the following projects:

Mezzano - An operating system written in Common Lisp

smalltalk - GNU Smalltalk

ChrysaLisp - Parallel OS, with GUI, Terminal, OO Assembler, Class libraries, C-Script compiler, Lisp interpreter and more...

pharo - Pharo is a dynamic reflective pure object-oriented language supporting live programming inspired by Smalltalk.

McCLIM - An implementation of the Common Lisp Interface Manager, version II

pldb - PLDB: a Programming Language Database. A computable encyclopedia about programming languages.

crosstalk - Smalltalk-80 bare metal implementation for the Raspberry Pi

Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev - Active development of Cuis Smalltalk

pcgeos - #FreeGEOS source codes. The offical home of the PC/GEOS operating system technology. For personal computing fans. For all developers and assembly lovers. For YOU!

poprc - A Compiler for the Popr Language

ripgrep - ripgrep recursively searches directories for a regex pattern while respecting your gitignore

Dolphin - Dolphin Smalltalk Core Image