Singeli VS CBQN

Compare Singeli vs CBQN and see what are their differences.

Singeli

High-level interface for low-level programming (by mlochbaum)
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Singeli CBQN
7 4
92 293
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9.1 9.5
about 2 months ago 5 days ago
C C
ISC License GNU General Public License v3.0 only
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Singeli

Posts with mentions or reviews of Singeli. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-01-08.
  • Singeli: High-level interface for low-level programming
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Feb 2024
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Jan 2024
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 29 Dec 2023
  • YAML Parser for Dyalog APL
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 8 Jan 2024
    I don't put a lot of stock in the "write-only" accusation. I think it's mostly used by those who don't know APL because, first, it's clever, and second, they can't read the code. However, if I remember I implemented something in J 10 years ago, I will definitely dig out the code because that's the fastest way by far for me to remember how it works.

    This project specifically looks to be done in a flat array style similar to Co-dfns[0]. It's not a very common way to use APL. However, I've maintained an array-based compiler [1] for several years, and don't find that reading is a particular difficulty. Debugging is significantly easier than a scalar compiler, because the computation works on arrays drawn from the entire source code, and it's easy to inspect these and figure out what doesn't match expectations. I wrote most of [2] using a more traditional compiler architecture and it's easier to write and extend but feels about the same for reading and small tweaks. See also my review [3] of the denser compiler and precursor Co-dfns.

    As for being read by others, short snippets are definitely fine. Taking some from the last week or so in the APL Farm, {⍵÷⍨+/|-/¯9 ¯11+.○?2⍵2⍴0} and {(⍸⍣¯1+\⎕IO,⍺)⊂[⎕IO]⍵} seemed to be easily understood. Forum links at [4]; the APL Orchard is viewable without signup and tends to have a lot of code discussion. There are APL codebases with many programmers, but they tend to be very verbose with long names. Something like the YAML parser here with no comments and single-letter names would be hard to get into. I can recognize, say, that c⌿¨⍨←(∨⍀∧∨⍀U⊖)∘(~⊢∊LF⍪WS⍨)¨c trims leading and trailing whitespace from each string in a few seconds, but in other places there are a lot of magic numbers so I get the "what" but not the "why". Eh, as I look over it things are starting to make sense, could probably get through this in an hour or so. But a lot of APLers don't have experience with the patterns used here.

    [0] https://github.com/Co-dfns/Co-dfns

    [1] https://github.com/mlochbaum/BQN/blob/master/src/c.bqn

    [2] https://github.com/mlochbaum/Singeli/blob/master/singeli.bqn

    [3] https://mlochbaum.github.io/BQN/implementation/codfns.html

    [4] https://aplwiki.com/wiki/Chat_rooms_and_forums

  • Singeli: A DSL for building SIMD algorithms
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 2 May 2023
  • Tolower() in Bulk at Speed
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Jun 2022
    Here's an AVX-2 implementation that assumes it can read up to 31 bytes past the end of the input: https://godbolt.org/z/P7PP1MnK7

    Requires -fno-unroll-loops as otherwise clang gets overly unroll-y; the code is fast enough. Tail is dealt with by blending the originally read value with the new one.

    (yes, that's autogenerated; from some https://github.com/mlochbaum/singeli code)

  • Jd
    10 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Apr 2022
    It's not ideal, but I've done this in BQN and it took about 15 lines. I didn't need to handle comments or escapes, which would add a little complexity. See functions ParseXml and ParseAttr here: https://github.com/mlochbaum/Singeli/blob/master/data/iintri...

    XML is particularly simple though, dealing with something like JPEG would be an entirely different experience.

CBQN

Posts with mentions or reviews of CBQN. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-12-20.
  • Building a faster hash table for high performance SQL joins
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Dec 2023
    Worth pointing out that this can depend a lot more on fiddly details than you might expect. In particular, you're dealing with a small fixed width allowing the hash to be stored in the table instead of the key. The article emphasizes variable-length keys, and I don't see any specialization on key sizes (if 4- and 8-byte keys aren't common then this makes sense; if they are then I'd expect dedicated table code for those sizes to be valuable). And set lookups are also just a bit different from value lookups. I think these cases are different enough that I have no idea if the results would carry over, although I can see how the bidirectional approach would reduce probing more than RH which seems good.

    ...and since I've done a lot of work with Robin Hood on small-key lookups, I can point out some little tweaks that have made a big difference for me. I have 8-byte lookups at just over 3ns/lookup[0], albeit at a very low load factor, typically <50%. A key step was to use the maximum possible hash as a sentinel value, handling it specially in case it shows up in the data. This way, instead of probing until finding an empty bucket or greater hash, probing just finds the first slot that's greater than or equal to the requested key's hash. So the lookup code[1] is very simple (the rest, not so much). The while loop is only needed on a hash collision, so at a low load factor a lookup is effectively branchless. However, these choices are specialized for a batched search where the number of insertions never has to be higher than the number of searches, and all the insertions can be done first. And focused on small-ish (under a million entries) tables.

    [0] https://mlochbaum.github.io/bencharray/pages/search.html

    [1] https://github.com/dzaima/CBQN/blob/5c7ab3f/src/singeli/src/...

  • Having trouble installing bqn into arch
    2 projects | /r/apljk | 19 Dec 2022
    It sounds like you might be trying to install the package manually from the AUR? Generally you should do this only once, for an AUR helper such as pacaur, so you can install with pacaur -S bqn. The instructions in the CBQN repository also work for installing without a package manager, which is the easiest way to enable replxx.
  • Programming Style Influences
    1 project | /r/programming | 11 May 2022
    It's still utterly verbose compared to the ngn/k source or even CBQN source.
  • BQN Example
    2 projects | /r/apljk | 25 Jun 2021
    CBQN Source, and Install Instructions

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