distribution VS turbo-ios

This is something that kind of annoys me; there's even a /r/rails sub-reddit specifically for Ruby on Rails stuff. Understandably Rails helped put Ruby on the map. Before Rails, Ruby was just another fringe language. Rails became massively popular, helped many startups quickly build their Web 2.0 sites, and become successful companies (ex: GitHub, LinkedIn, AirBnB, etc). Like others have said, "Rails is where the money is at". However, this posses a problem for the Ruby community: whenever Rails becomes less popular, so does Ruby. I wish the Ruby ecosystem wasn't so heavily centralized around Rails, and that we diversified our uses of Ruby a bit. There's of course Sinatra, dry-rb, Hanami, Dragon Ruby, SciRuby, and a dozen security tools written in Ruby such as Metasploit, BeFF, Arachni, and Ronin.

Welcome! Ruby isn't exactly "dying", but the hype/popularity is definitely fading. This is primarily because Ruby is no longer "new", most of Ruby's popularity came from Rails, and now Rails is no longer the "new hotness". However, Ruby still has lots of awesome features and lots of awesome other libraries and frameworks, such as the new fancy irb gem that uses reline, nokogiri, chunky_png, the async gems, Dragon Ruby, SciRuby, Ronin, and the new Hanami web framework.

http://sciruby.com is working towards lowering that barrier

Ruby is mainly used in web app development because that's what makes money. However, Ruby is also used in Information Security (infosec) and there are a dozen or so Ruby security tools and libraries (metasploit, ronin, arachni, dnscat2, dradis). There's also SciRuby which aims to allow Ruby being used in the scientific/academic fields. You've probably heard/seen DragonRuby which is helping to popularize Ruby for simple game development. There's also a lot of interesting work happening around mruby and mruby-c (see mruby/c on Flipper Zero and mruby on DreamCast).

If you're a SwiftUI developer, I've had an issue open at https://github.com/hotwired/turbo-ios/issues/8 to get Turbo SwiftUI off the ground.

I've talked to a few folks about it and have heard responses ranging from "it's a bad idea/can't be done" (mainly because of SwiftUI bugs) to "why would you want to do that?". I think it would be amazing to have a declarative of building out a Hotwire Rails application inside of iOS. Bonus if the Turbo SwiftUI component could run on macOS.

For the mobile side, start with each platform's respective Turbo package: https://github.com/hotwired/turbo-ios and https://github.com/hotwired/turbo-android. Each has a demo app you can run in XCode/Android studio. To get a basic app building, follow each one's "Getting Started" guide. It's actually pretty easy to get a basic native app building, the hard part comes in integrating native components and services, as well as release management.

turbo-ios and turbo-android are the shell/wrapper apps handling native navigation, written for native iOS and Android. They are provided for you, and works out-of-the-box, but you risk having to fiddle with iOS and Android development for maintenance/debugging later on.

Ruby on Rails, Hotwire, Postgres, Redis

Does anyone have experience with https://github.com/hotwired/turbo-ios or https://github.com/hotwired/turbo-android ?

1. Turbo Native

I use Turbo Native on iOS to do exactly this.

You render your mobile web view like normal, wire up a JavaScript handler (formerly known as Turbolinks), and push native screens on iOS. It works really well for CRUD and "boring" SAAS apps with little interaction outside of forms. And when you need higher fidelity dropping down to SwiftUI or UIKit is straightforward.

https://github.com/hotwired/turbo-ios

To make things even simpler, I built Jumpstart iOS, which takes care of all of the Swift boilerplate. Navigation, authentication, and push notifications all work out of the box after adding a few endpoints to your server.

https://jumpstartrails.com/ios

Adding to the already mentioned solutions, another alternative may be to develop your app with Phoenix and [Hotwire](https://hotwired.dev/), using Turbo on the backend and [Turbo-ios](https://github.com/hotwired/turbo-ios) for your app.

turbo-ios and turbo-android are small wrappers around your web views. You write native Swift and Kotlin wrappers but the frameworks display your web content. They also handle navigation and data transmission between the views and native code.

I’d like to see this integrate more tightly with Rails Turbo framework. Ideally it would understand Visitables and plug into SwiftUI. I took a swing at that at https://github.com/hotwired/turbo-ios/issues/8 but have struggled to get it working … that and Strada hasn’t come out yet, which I assume is the equiv of the native plugins within Portals.