MutopiaProject VS glicol

ABC is the other major player in the space besides MusicXML and Lilypond.

The Mutopia project [1] is magnificent but largely abandoned in favor of MuseScore [2] which uses MusicXML. The amount of music available there is staggering but locked in to their backend.

Unfortunately automated translation is difficult because Lilypond is very oriented towards specifics on how the notation is rendered.

And, if you are interested in general archives of music, IMSLP [3] (Internet Music Score Library Project) has to be mentioned as well, but mostly contains scans of existing engraved music.

[1] https://github.com/MutopiaProject/MutopiaProject

[2] https://musescore.com/sheetmusic

[3] https://imslp.org

> working on producing

The Mutopia project is dormant, and under current maintainership (or lack thereof) submitting contributions is hit-or-miss[0].

> latex versions of music

Lilypond isn't TeX, but lilypond-book, a companion utility that can process lilypond files, can be integrated into LaTeX, DocBook, Texinfo, and HTML workflows[1].

0: Primary contribution channel: https://github.com/MutopiaProject/MutopiaProject

1: https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/usage/integrati...

Have I got a thrill for you!

https://www.mutopiaproject.org

https://lilypond.org

https://www.hacklily.org

...it really helped me understand why "$SCORE = ( $MELODY + $BASS )" was sometimes superior to viewing sheet music as a "wall of notes and chords". You have to "play the wall" as it comes at you, but mentally, thinking of it as "melody goes la la la, bass goes boom bang boom" helps to provide context to what are the roles of the two notes you're playing.

This is something you do have to watch for: just because the composition is public domain, doesn't mean the exact score you found is. Another really good source for public domain sheet music is Mutopia project. Not all of it is public domain, but a lot of it is, and with Mutopia project all the scores are in a consistent format and include midi files, which is a huge plus. The site hasn't been updated for years but it has a pretty big collection.

A lot of classical music is public domain nowadays. Check out IMSLP (as indicated by /u/Gloomy_Plankton6631) for loads of classical music in all possible arrangements, as well as Mutopia Project.

Check license on individual pieces...

https://www.mutopiaproject.org/ says "all in the Public Domain or under Creative Commons licenses"

https://musopen.org/ says "free, without copyright restrictions"

I typeset and recorded Alkan's Op. 45 Salut, cendre du pauvre! The video shows the original source (from IMSLP), my re-setting of it, and finally an experimental typesetting that breaks some typesetting conventions but tries to makes some quality of life changes that I happen to like. The piece was quite tricky for me (I am no Alkan!), so if you have any advice for playing, typesetting, or recording, that would be greatly appreciated (I always think my recordings sound "reedy" as opposed to rich, and I am not really sure why). I'm pretty pleased with the fidelity of my resetting, though I can't figure out how to get lilypond to do slanted dynamic hairpins which Alkan makes great use of here. You can get the source on IMSLP here. My typesetting here. My alternative typesetting here. I typeset this using my own lilypond library you can get here. The reset version is as accurate as I can make it, the only deliberate difference between that and the source is my use of modern pedal notation. The alternate version makes the following additional changes: 1) The treble staff has extra ledger lines to avoid repeated clef changes. 2) I change key signature to avoid accidental overload at various points. 3) Both hands are placed in the same stave where it is easier (for me) to read. 4) I added ottava markings where appropriate. Both of my typesettings run to 6 pages (half of the source's 12) although the final page of the alternate version gets pretty cramped. If you want to make further changes, the source code is included in the above repo. I also opened a pull request to the mutopia project here.

I've worked on Ambient Engine and now on the Bevy engine. I totally agree with these points, very valuable. I only make some comments from my professional (audio) perspective:

We need the highlight author's affirmation of cli. Rust's tui (ratatui) is great. I used it to make Glicol-cli [1]. If you are a Linux user, you are welcome to test the music production of the code.

Speaking of game audio, I actually think rust is perfect for audio. I have also continued to develop Glicol recently, and my recent goal (starting tomorrow) is the bevy_glicol plug-in. I want to solve bevy's audio problem on the browser.

All in all, even though I've had my share of pain with ecs, I still think rust is very valuable for game and app development, maybe not multiplayer AAA, maybe practical apps.

[1] https://github.com/glicol/glicol-cli

[2] https://github.com/chaosprint/glicol

Nice! Great project website styling and demo.

I had a WebGPU scope demo using vanila JS here, but it's not connected to AudioContext at all.

https://stackblitz.com/edit/vitejs-vite-cuc9vs

Still, I had to use the old WebGL solution for https://glicol.org since the WebGPU support seems to be pretty slow at the moment.

Suno is great and I already shared its potential back in v2. I have always believed that the essence of digital music is "organized numbers". I think what needs to be thought about is how to use AI in this process. If you look at the results (numbers) generated, then we are indeed very close. But there is another future I believe: I hope AI can compose music with me, like copilot. This is why I keep working on

https://glicol.org/

and the destination is:

https://github.com/chaosprint/RaveForce

Also want to hear your feedback.

Interesting!

Similar note-based expression can be found on TidalCycles/Strudel. although it's not valid MIDI format anymore, you can use notation like c4, f3, and make them as "pattern". Samples are also supported in the same manner:

https://strudel.cc/

And in my project Glicol, I use only numbers in the seq node. So 60 means middle C. Underscore means rest.

https://glicol.org/

I also applied with Glicol (https://glicol.org/) and got rejected, which is totally understandable. I am basically working this project on my own with almost zero extra funding.

I am currently working on a new website. The old stack is Vite, Svelte and Windi CSS (discontinued unfortunately). So this time maybe Astro + Solid + Tailwind.

And I am also trying to rewrite the whole Rust backend if possible, so there is quite some work to be done.

Let me know on GH or Discord if you are interested.

It's a good chance to try Rust, WASM, DSP, etc.

This is a really informative and inspiring article.

It hasn’t been 6 months (not 6 years) since I quit my full-time job as a Rust developer to start my own business.

As time goes by, I can feel the pressure of mortgage and car loans, and I can also feel the care and pressure of my family.

My original plan was to make an interface for Glicol (https://glicol.org), and to develop relevant hardware with firmware written in rust for school education.

I sent some cold emails to VCs, but most of them got no reply.

I also sent an email to the Norwegian Museum of Science and Technology, offering to perform for children for free, but they didn’t reply for two months. I shamelessly sent it again, and someone finally replied with a rejection.

Only one VC talked to me and thought that I should convince and validate a partner first, and he suggested that I go to an incubator.

Very good advice.

Later I learned that even Norwegian education startups skipped Norway and focused directly on the US market.

People from the incubator also told me that it is impossible for Norwegian schools to accept new things independently.

This is very enlightening to me because most of Glicol's visitors are indeed from the US. And it took me so long to discover this fact.

But if I don’t start, I’ll never get past those six months.

I picked up LOGO when I was 6 and leant Pascal and C later.

I didn't program for a few years because I wasn't interested in competitions. So I think interest is the most important, otherwise it will be easy to get lost and give up.

Later, I became very interested in programming, mainly because I came into contact with music technology.

I think since your child is interested in game development, it is a good choice to start step by step. For example, starting with threejs. I also recommend learning Rust and Bevy so you learn the underlying layers and ECS.

Last but not least, although it's not related to games dev but I sincerely invite you and your son to try Glicol (https://glicol.org), the project that I am developing.

I quite my job as well to work on

https://glicol.org

I have a lot of feelings, but I don't have a blog so far. But one of my feelings is that universities should alloc some of their funding to many of these open source projects and open source community should be better managed rather than donation. My plan is to start my own company and work on hardware .